George Hawkins need help finding birth

[Neale1961]

No such thing as correct or incorrect spelling at this time. Names were written as heard.
You should expect various different spelling possibilities/ versions.
George died with his surname spelled as “Hockings”. Perhaps that's what Hawkins sounds like with a Devon accent.

[Neale1961]

There is a baptism in 1799 Stoke Damerel (Plymouth) that might be a possibility for George Hawkins.

[raa]

yes i have the marriage cert for Charles says his father William Hawkins carpenter both Charles and Margaret give there adress as 32 looe st plymouth Mrgarets Father Joh Tooley labourer

[raa]

the 1799 baptism is interesting right area but im not helped with 41 cencus saying born 1806 and birth devon all ages on the cencis for there ages end in 0 or 5 so could be 2-3 either way on his birth

[Neale1961]

George’s age at death suggests an 1802 birth. So 1799 baptism is within realms of possibility.

[raa]

thanks for all info

[Neale1961]

Children of George HAWKINS and Margaret TOOLEY
Eliza HAWKINS baptised 6th Feb 1831 Plymouth
Parents: Margaret & George – labourer
Abode Looe Street

Mary Ann HAWKINS baptised 8th May 1833 Plymouth
Parents: Margaret & George – labourer
Abode Looe Street

Charles HAWKINS baptised 26th July 1835 Plymouth
Parents: Margaret & George – labourer
Abode Looe Street

George HAWKINS baptised 24th Dec 1837 Plymouth (burial 27 Nov 1838)
Parents: Margaret & George – labourer
Abode Looe Street

Interesting to see that the family were at Looe Street for such a long time.- and remained there after Margaret's second marriage. Does it add weight to the possibility of George and Charles being brothers?

[Neale1961]

In 1841 census Margaret HAWKINS is age 35
In 1851 census Margaret HAWKINS is age 40
In 1861 census Margaret HAWKINS (nee TOOLEY) age 57 is living Lambhay Hill Plymouth.
She was born in Rattery - Possible baptism there for her in 1803; daughter of John and Margaret.
She died in 1869 at age 66 (so birth about 1803)

Her birth year varies quite considerably through the census records. Thinking 1803 is most likely correct for Margaret, therefore 1802 or earlier is probable for husband George.


We don’t know where in Devon George Hawkins was born – should not assume it was Plymouth.

[Neale1961]

yes i have the marriage cert for Charles says his father William Hawkins carpenter both Charles and Margaret give there adress as 32 looe st plymouth Mrgarets Father Joh Tooley labourer

It would be helpful to have the complete information from the marriage record.
Who were the witnesses?
Does Charles sign his name or give his mark X?
What is Charles' occupation on the marriage?
What are the ages of bride and groom?