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Francis Snape born c1874 - help with year of death
« on: Monday 12 June 23 22:09 BST (UK) »
Hi, I'm researching Francis Snape who married Harriet Louisa Chittleburgh 1903 Burton upon Trent (same family as this topic - https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=751089.0)

From his marriage cert he was born about 1875 his father Francis a labourer. I have found a Francis Snape born 1874 in Adlington Lancashire to parents Francis and Alice, father a labourer. I am fairly certain this is who I'm looking for.

However, I cannot find a death record for him. He had three sons with Harriett, two of which were adopted out of the family. Last one being born in 1907. In 1911 census, Harriett states she is a widow and living in Preston Lancashire.

I suspect he died between 1907 and 1911.

Leonard George Snape was their third son and was adopted into a family in Leicester. In 1939 he is with his wife Lydia and someone else called Leslie Edwin Snape born 4 Aug 1924. I find a similar entry for Leslie at another address but date of birth is 3 Apr 1924. I have researched a bit into his parents and it seems that this is the same person and he's been entered twice. I think he is related in some way to my Snape's but I can't quite see the connection.

If anyone can help it'd be appreciated.
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Re: Francis Snape born c1874 - help with year of death
« Reply #1 on: Monday 12 June 23 22:41 BST (UK) »
What was his occupation on the marriage cert?

A tree on Ancestry has his birth as 1878 & his death as 6.10.1984 Lancs making him 106 years old  ??? ??? ???

That particular Francis Snape was b 1889
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Re: Francis Snape born c1874 - help with year of death
« Reply #2 on: Monday 12 June 23 22:43 BST (UK) »
Francis was contractor labourer and his father was a corporation labourer.
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Re: Francis Snape born c1874 - help with year of death
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 13 June 23 01:18 BST (UK) »


Can you please list all the information on the marriage certificate, 1903.



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Re: Francis Snape born c1874 - help with year of death
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 13 June 23 01:54 BST (UK) »

OPC for the County of Lancashire
https://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html


30 Dec 1899 St Paul (Including Christ Church), Adlington, Lancashire, England
YATES James Jones  31y pattern clerk bachelor, 16 Bolton Road Adlington

SNAPE Ann              21y spinster, 15 Peel Street Adlington
Father     Francis SNAPE  County Council Employee
Witnesses       William SNAPE     Mary Ann JONES

(Notes: Written at bottom of page corrected while entering grooms address grooms father
           & occupation)
   


31 Jan 1900 St Paul (Including Christ Church), Adlington, Lancashire, England
SNAPE William            22y     Overlooker, Bachelor, 15 Peel St Adlington
Father   Francis SNAPE           Labourer

MILLER Lavinia           24y      Weaver, Spinster, 8 Meadow St Adlington
Father   Thomas MILLER         Book Keeper

Witnesses  Edwin MILLER  Ann JONES
   

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Re: Francis Snape born c1874 - help with year of death
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 13 June 23 02:24 BST (UK) »
This is possibly your family?

Ancestry Census 1891  at 15 Peel Street Adlington
SNAPE Francis     52y  general labourer                   b. Lathom LANCS
SNAPE Alice         52y                                            b. Heath Charnock LANCS
SNAPE Ann          20y  dau winder cotton mill          b. Adlington LANCS
SNAPE Francis      16y  son    cotton dyer                b. Adlington LANCS
SNAPE William     13y   son                                    b. Adlington LANCS


"Leonard George Snape was their third son and was adopted into a family in Leicester. "

What family in Leicester?  When was Leonard living with them?

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Re: Francis Snape born c1874 - help with year of death
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 13 June 23 06:22 BST (UK) »
Possibly from the 1939 register/Ashby-de-la-Zouch, Leicestershire

14 Tamworth Road
Leonard G Snape born 9 January 1907
Lydia  born  2 February 1914
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Leslie Snape born 4 August 1924

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Re: Francis Snape born c1874 - help with year of death
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 13 June 23 06:30 BST (UK) »
1911 census
4 Main Street, Newhall  Burton On Trent

Arthur John Brealey 54   Newhall Derbyshire
Harriet Brealey 50          Newport Shropshire, married 30 years 7/5/2
George Arthur  20          Newhall  Derbyshire
Lizzie  17                       same
Rose 14                         same
**Leonard Snape 4  adopted child**  Burton On Trent, Staffordshire

ADDED
In 1901 the Brealey family are in Burton On Trent at 73 Main Street

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Re: Francis Snape born c1874 - help with year of death
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 13 June 23 06:43 BST (UK) »
The eldest son Herbert was also adopted out.
1911 census Peterborough
3 South View, Dogsthorpe, Peterborough

Robert Watts 36  Kentish Town London
Ada Watts 34       Kings Cross London  married 12 years  3/1/2
William Watts 11   Cricklewood London
**Herbert Snape 8 adopted son, born Burton on Trent**