Abraham Collins 1769/ Ann Holt 1767

[garstonite]

Thoughts please
I think the 1790 birth was John Collins    because of this record
would appreciate your input
name   John Collins
Sex   Male
Age   17y
Father's Name   Abraham Collins
Mother's Name   Ann
Event Type   Burial
Event Date   02 Dec 1807
Event Place   , Warburton, Cheshire, England
Age (Formatted)   17y
?   

[BumbleB]

Certainly a possibility.  If the BTs were available then it might be possible to double-check that 1790 baptism. 

[garstonite]

Warburton 1790 baptism - it would appear that Abraham's father is also Abraham as the entry says that the child's father is Abraham JUNIOR.

THANKS Bumble - just seen that reord myself on Familysearch - I wonder if I can find a marriage for an Abraham Collins in that area around 1850-1867 ?...here goes ....lol
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ADDED...No luck with a marriage

[emeltom]

Just found this baptism

Abram Collinge baptised Warburton 24 January 1768 parents Abraham and Esther

[emeltom]

Abraham and Esther also baptised the following in Warburton

Esther 30 September 1753
Betty 12 February 1757
Mary 26 August 1759

There are also two baptisms in Bowdon (4 miles from Warburton) with parents Abraham and Esther

John 7 March 1762
Fanny 30 December 1764

[garstonite]

Abraham and Esther also baptised the following in Warburton

Esther 30 September 1753
Betty 12 February 1757
Mary 26 August 1759

There are also two baptisms in Bowdon (4 miles from Warburton) with parents Abraham and Esther

John 7 March 1762
Fanny 30 December 1764

so we have Abraham Collins and wife Esther having in Warburton
Esther 1753
Bettey 1757
Mary 1759 then Bowdon - 4 miles away
John 1762
Fanny 1764
so I now look for a marriage of Abraham to an Esther ?
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no luck
 

[emeltom]

Can't see an Abraham/Ester marriage but I have found the following burials in Warburton

Esther, wife of Abraham  Collins buried 20 May 1800
Abraham Collins buried 26 August 1808 aged 83 (yob 1725)

[garstonite]

Thanks
I have to ask - if it was your tree - would you add Abraham - we know that to be his name - and would you add
Esther
Betty
Mary
John
Fanny
as well

[emeltom]

I think I would add the four children baptised in Warburton and perhaps just pencil in the two baptised in Bowdon. They are probably the same family but not 100% certain.