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Thought only ladies name changed in the 1939 Register
« on: Tuesday 13 June 23 21:50 BST (UK) »
Good evening I am just wondering why in the 1939 register for the Kervin family of Ellesmere Port, John Kervin 1904, his wife Rose Kervin 1898 2 people closed and Jack (John) Williams (Kervin) 1925. I will add that all these people have passed away.  I am helping my friend Ms Phillipart with her tree and I thought that John Williams married Mary Elizabeth Cohen and their daughter Christina Cohen
Williams married Thomas Hubert Phillipart - or have I got it all wrong again  ??? Why did Jack Kervin change his name could he have been adopted?
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Re: Thought only ladies name changed in the 1939 Register
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 13 June 23 22:20 BST (UK) »
Looking at the image, my reading of it is they've transcribed  Jack as Kervin  as he followed on from the other Kervins, and it's been corrected at the time (1939) to Williams (pen colour is the same). The writing itself is a bit smudged

Jack has replaced John at a later date - it's in green pen. There's a date in 1968 in green noting when that change was made

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Re: Thought only ladies name changed in the 1939 Register
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 13 June 23 22:29 BST (UK) »
John Kervin & Rose Williams only married in 1931.  John/Jack was b 1925 so was born as Williams

Marriages Dec 1931   
John Kervin/Rose Williams    Wirral    8a   931
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Re: Thought only ladies name changed in the 1939 Register
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 13 June 23 22:35 BST (UK) »
Thank you both  :)
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Re: Thought only ladies name changed in the 1939 Register
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 13 June 23 22:39 BST (UK) »
So he was illegitimate ?
 
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Re: Thought only ladies name changed in the 1939 Register
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 13 June 23 22:45 BST (UK) »
The 2 redacted entries appear to be children b 1932 & 1935

John is only 14yrs old in 1939 & Christina Cohen Williams married Thomas Phillipart in 1940??
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Re: Thought only ladies name changed in the 1939 Register
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 13 June 23 22:48 BST (UK) »
Deaths
Christina Phillipart 69  Birth 7 Jun 1920
Registration Date:    Mar 1990
Registration District:    Chester and Ellesmere Port
Volume:    35  Page:    72
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Re: Thought only ladies name changed in the 1939 Register
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 13 June 23 22:51 BST (UK) »
Births Sep 1920   
Christina Williams Cohen Wirral    8a   799 GRO online shows no mmn so she was illegitimate

www.cheshirebmd.org.uk shows birth was registered in the sub district of Eastham
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Re: Thought only ladies name changed in the 1939 Register
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 13 June 23 23:01 BST (UK) »
Christina was born before this marriage

Marriages Sep 1921   
Mary E Cohen / Jonathan G Williams Wirral    8a   1156   
Cheshire BMD - civil marriage - he was Jonathan George 
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