Author Topic: Edward Brien Eliza Kearney 3x grandparents  (Read 458 times)

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Edward Brien Eliza Kearney 3x grandparents
« on: Wednesday 14 June 23 11:57 BST (UK) »
Good morning
Could anybody see a marriage for the above people?
They have their children in the parish of Rathmoon Baltinglass co Wicklow
I have the birth of some of some of their children around 1848, 1844, 1846, 1841all in the same area
We ended up O’Briens but there shown as Brien on records
Thank you

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Re: Edward Brien Eliza Kearney 3x grandparents
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 14 June 23 21:49 BST (UK) »
Rathmoon is a townland
https://www.townlands.ie/wicklow/upper-talbotstown/baltinglass/baltinglass/rathmoon/

It’s in the Civil parish of Baltinglass
The Church of Ireland Parish of Baltinglass
And the Roman Catholic Parish of Baltinglass

Assuming with the surname Brian your family were RC you can look at the RC parish registers on NLI https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0691

It’s fairly standard for the O to be missing on surnames until the late 19th early 20th centuries.

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Re: Edward Brien Eliza Kearney 3x grandparents
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 15 June 23 07:15 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the reply Sinann
I did not know about the O being added I must research that
I have found us as Byrnes as well 
I have been in the NLI I can’t see the marriage that’s not to say it’s not there
Not always easy to read

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Re: Edward Brien Eliza Kearney 3x grandparents
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 15 June 23 08:01 BST (UK) »
You mention a child born 1841 - what name is that?
I can see Michael baptised 9th April 1842 to Ned and Betty Keiney?
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634399#page/90/mode/1up

A sponsor is William Brien - perhaps a brother to Edward?

When the children marry, do they give an occupation for Edward?
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Re: Edward Brien Eliza Kearney 3x grandparents
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 15 June 23 13:10 BST (UK) »
Hello Heywood
I have Edward Brien born 18th of April 1848. I have a born the 25th of January at 1846. I have aborn 18th of April 1848. I have a born the 25th of January at 1846 I have Maria born the 24th of January 1841, and John born in 1844, all in the same area. .
When John Marty’s  in Tipperary, he’s in the army from memory, the 57th Regiment, I think

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Re: Edward Brien Eliza Kearney 3x grandparents
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 15 June 23 13:13 BST (UK) »
In these baptism records, the father is always Edward, but the mother is known as ELIZA and Betty Betty for Annie Brien born 1846
It really helps as Baltinglass mentioned all the time, but I can’t find the marriage for Edward and ELIZA for John, the informants of John Kerney  and Catherine Kerney of course, I’d like these to be Eliza s  parents lol

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Re: Edward Brien Eliza Kearney 3x grandparents
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 15 June 23 13:47 BST (UK) »
Marriages usually take place in the brides parish, perhaps Elizabeth was from a neighbouring parish.

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Re: Edward Brien Eliza Kearney 3x grandparents
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 15 June 23 15:16 BST (UK) »
Sinann
There lies the problem
plus I guess I’m lucky finding there children records considering the 1800 s

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Re: Edward Brien Eliza Kearney 3x grandparents
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 15 June 23 17:20 BST (UK) »
Are there any Kerney (variations) as sponsors?
Did the family stay in the same area?

Griffiths Valuation (abt 1854) shows a William Bryan in Rathmoon.
https://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=nameSearch

There is a Thomas Kearney in Irongrange Lower, in the same parish but the name has various spellings in your records.
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