Placename help - Flatfield

[Gortinanima]

In old O.S. maps there looks to be a local placename 'Flat Field' about 300 yards from the intersection of the A32 Mossfield Road and Drumbulcan Road in the southwest of the townland of Sidaire in Magheracross C.P., there are just a couple of modern bungalows in that vicinity today (incidentally, the O.S. Memoirs say that Magheracross C.P. had a small detached portion in Kilskeery C.P.)

https://www.townlands.ie/fermanagh/tirkennedy/magheracross/bellanamallard/sidaire/

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01sed/

Griffith's Valuation shows a John Allen leasing a house and just over 5 acres in Sidaire (print date 1862), but this is spread across three properties about half a mile further up the Drumbulcan Road.  I suppose he could conceivably be related in some way.

This is very helpful - thankyou!

[Yuillie]

Hi all,

I am a descendant of John Allen and his wife Ann (nee Cowan) through their daughter Margaret. Flatfield is the name of the farm that the Allen family owned near Goolwa, South Australia. Following the death of John the land was subdivided amongst his children, some continued to farm the land before selling it on further. The area they farmed in Goolwa was essentially a 'flat field', spread over 3 interconnected farms. I have this outlined on an old map of the area on ancestry, but the file was too large to upload on this forum:

https://www.ancestry.com.au/mediaui-viewer/collection/1030/tree/117146907/person/190161231257/media/86e9f9ac-25db-43ac-a849-1966428905aa?_phsrc=xyP1595&usePUBJs=true&galleryindex=1&albums=pg&showGalleryAlbums=true&tab=0&pid=190161231257&sort=-created

 I have been researching this family on and off for 20+ years and recently received a report from a genealogist in Northern Ireland Allen family hailed from Shanmullagh West townland in Kilskeery Parish, Tyrone, at least since the 1700's. Shanmullagh West has been colloquially referred to as Glasmullagh by locals of the time, in church records and land deeds which added to confusing research. While the report does identify where some of the Allen farms were within Shanmullagh West, there is no mention of any being referred to as "Flatfield".

I'm happy to share further information for those interested, and I am slowly updating my family tree on ancestry with supporting documents: https://www.ancestry.com.au/family-tree/tree/117146907/family?cfpid=192458630991

[Kiltaglassan]

Yuillie,

You need to remove your e-mail address because it is forbidden here on RootsChat. This is to avoid spamming, internet abuse, identity abuse etc.

Shanmullagh West townland in the civil parish of Kilskeery.

https://www.townlands.ie/tyrone/east-omagh/kilskeery/drumharvey/shanmullagh-west/

https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4580663#map=12/54.4894/-7.5761

[Yuillie]

Hi Kiltaglassan,

Have removed my email, yes I am aware Shanmullagh West is a townland in kilskeery, I was responding to an earlier post regarding an Allen family from said townland who migrated to South Australia and established the farm called Flatfield in Middleton/Goolwa South Australia

[shanreagh]

Hi Kiltaglassan,

.....yes I am aware Shanmullagh West is a townland in kilskeery, .....
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Others reading this later may not be aware of this though.  That is why KG's scene setting with info about townlands is so useful and important.   

[Yuillie]

This is true. Cheers

[Kiltaglassan]

Hi Kiltaglassan,

.....yes I am aware Shanmullagh West is a townland in kilskeery, .....
...

Others reading this later may not be aware of this though.  That is why KG's scene setting with info about townlands is so useful and important.   

Thanks, shanreagh. Appreciated.