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Re: Trying to find parents of William New
« Reply #27 on: Monday 19 June 23 06:14 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that Ian.
Now in regard to John New and Sarah Wotten, wondering if you have any information on their deaths.  Am trying to work down the family line now.
Jan
New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
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Re: Trying to find parents of William New
« Reply #28 on: Monday 19 June 23 06:23 BST (UK) »
Interesting that William New in 1841 census living with the Hazel family, aged 4 years, with William and Sophia Hazel and their own son aged 14 years.    William Hazel was living by Independent means, so obviously he was able to pay for his schooling at private school.

What happened to John and Sarah Wotten, the young child's parents, one wonders.

Jan

A William Hazel was one of the witnesses at Joseph NEW and Elizabeth HYDE's marriage in 1773 in Ashbury.

He was a witness at more that one marriage so may have been the parish clerk.

Ian C
New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir

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Re: Trying to find parents of William New
« Reply #29 on: Saturday 08 July 23 08:03 BST (UK) »
We now have a marriage certificate for John New and Jane Enscoe, which shows John's Father as a China Merchant as his occupation, (not deceased) .   They were married by license in 1873 at the Parish Church, Kensington  Middlesex.   John's address was Argyle Lodge,65 Earls Court Road his occupation a Steward.    Probate records show he had a son William New who was born 1836, but the marriage certificate shows John as a Bachelor (he may have lied on that fact).

My query now is in regard to John New and Sarah Wotten's life, if he was a China Merchant, would that mean a Hawker or an international trade dealer.

Jan



Thanks for that Ian.
Now in regard to John New and Sarah Wotten, wondering if you have any information on their deaths.  Am trying to work down the family line now.
Jan
New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir

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Re: Trying to find parents of William New
« Reply #30 on: Saturday 08 July 23 10:43 BST (UK) »
Hi Janjim,
John NEW of Wantage, Berks married Sarah WOTTON otp by licence at Marlborough, Wiltshire on 14 Jun 1812.

Just to add to "Ian C" entry; the marriage licence reads;

John New, 21, bac, Earthenware  Dealer, of Wantage,Berks to
Sarah Wootton, 21, sp, of Marlborough St.Mary, Wilts
B/Man; Robert Fox, Earthenware Dealer, Marlborough
Dated13-6-1812

Source; Wilts MLB cd.

Alan
Browse, Peggs, Revans/Revance/Ribbans, Spall,   in Suffolk/Norfolk
Belcher, Elderfield, Froude, Saunders,  Stimson, Tame,   in Berks
Artis, Gray in Norfolk


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Re: Trying to find parents of William New
« Reply #31 on: Saturday 08 July 23 23:08 BST (UK) »
Hi Janjim,
John NEW of Wantage, Berks married Sarah WOTTON otp by licence at Marlborough, Wiltshire on 14 Jun 1812.

Just to add to "Ian C" entry; the marriage licence reads;

John New, 21, bac, Earthenware  Dealer, of Wantage,Berks to
Sarah Wootton, 21, sp, of Marlborough St.Mary, Wilts
B/Man; Robert Fox, Earthenware Dealer, Marlborough
Dated13-6-1812

Source; Wilts MLB cd.

Alan

Yes thank you for this, would say John New was most likely just a dealer.   If only we could find the deaths of either of these two, John New and his wife Sarah.   There were no children born to their marriage after 1819, so maybe Sarah died and John New moved elsewhere.  Thank  you.
New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir