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Re: Trying to find parents of William New
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 18 June 23 08:07 BST (UK) »
Just one question, does William name his father on his 2nd marriage to Grace.

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Re: Trying to find parents of William New
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 18 June 23 08:17 BST (UK) »
John,
I haven't found any information on the marriage to Grace Turtle, but for his first marriage on 1/1/1862 to Anna, his Father was shown as John New, Gentleman.
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New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir

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Re: Trying to find parents of William New
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 18 June 23 12:50 BST (UK) »
John,
There is a story book written about William New's life "Don't Mock the Turtle" and regarding William's new marriage to Grace Ada Turtle, it says "William New aged 54,Widower of Anna, married Grace Ada Turtle, just turned 21 at Bexley Heath's Congregational Chapel on October 30th 1890. The certificate states that William's Father had been a Steward but was now dead."

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New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir

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Re: Trying to find parents of William New
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 18 June 23 23:29 BST (UK) »
Hope my answers to this, assist you.   Think we need to go back to Joseph New and Elizabeth Hyde which is my Common Ancestors line, the Grandparents of this John Hyde New.   I come down the line of Daniel New the youngest son of Joseph & Elizabeth New, John Hyde New appears to come down the line of Daniel's brother John.   Will get back to all those details now.

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Just one question, does William name his father on his 2nd marriage to Grace.

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New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir


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Re: Trying to find parents of William New
« Reply #13 on: Monday 19 June 23 00:55 BST (UK) »
Maybe someone could assist me further please.   My Common Ancstors - Joseph New b.1748 Ashbury d.1839 Ashbury, married to Elizabeth Hide (Hyde) b. 1751 Shrivenham d. 1835 Ashbury. Have not found their marriage.  This information researched back in the 1980's originally.

Joseph and Elizabeth New had the following children:

Mary New 1773-1841
Susannah New 1775-1849
Phillip New 1776 - 1822
Joseph New 1779
William New 1781
Elizabeth 1783
Richard 1785
John 1787  (married to Sarah Wooton) (Father to John Hyde New)
Henry 1789-1867
Daniel New 1792 d. 1871 Newbury.  (Daniel is my 3 x G Grandfather)

We need to find the link from William New b. 1836 Kingstone Lyle son of John Hyde New (Butler in London)  to Joseph & Elizabeth New.

Thanking you for any assistance please.   Jan
New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir

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Re: Trying to find parents of William New
« Reply #14 on: Monday 19 June 23 01:13 BST (UK) »
From Shrivenham baptisms - ex OFHS

1751 Nov 20, HYDE Eliz: d/o Richd & Eliz, Bourton

No marriage at Shrivenham for her.

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Re: Trying to find parents of William New
« Reply #15 on: Monday 19 June 23 01:19 BST (UK) »
From Ashbury marriages - ex OFHS

1773 Feb 8
Joseph NEW, Ashbury
Elizabeth HYDE, Ashbury
After banns both made their mark
Wits: John Warren, William Hazel

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Re: Trying to find parents of William New
« Reply #16 on: Monday 19 June 23 01:20 BST (UK) »
Ian that's great, got a good start now.
Thank  you.
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New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir

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Re: Trying to find parents of William New
« Reply #17 on: Monday 19 June 23 01:33 BST (UK) »
Ashbury baptisms - ex OFHS

1773 Jun 20, Mary, d/o Joseph and Elizabeth NEW
1775 Mar 19, Susannah, d/o ditto
1776 Oct 13, Phillip, s/o ditto
1779 Apr 4, Joseph, s/o ditto
1781 Jun 2, William, s/o ditto
1783 May 9, Elizabeth, d/o ditto
1785 Sep 18, Richard, s/o ditto
1787 May 28, John, s/o ditto
1789 May 31, Henry, s/o ditto
1792 May 28, Daniel, s/o ditto, mmn HIDE, born May 1

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