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McClellands, Blacksmiths of Newry
« on: Thursday 22 June 23 14:33 BST (UK) »
Looking for information on my paternal line. Apparently, a "Jas" James McClelland owned a forge on the Mall by O'hagans Bridge in Newry. He died suddenly whilst working there in 1916. It was a Robert McClelland that owned a forge on Hill street and moved to the Mall some years prior so I assume its the same one as the address lines up. I'm trying to see if Robert was James father. I cannot find anything on Robert regarding age only that his name appears time and time again in the newspaper archives. Just not any useful information regarding birth or death.

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Re: McClellands, Blacksmiths of Newry
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 22 June 23 21:50 BST (UK) »
Possibly this is your James in the 1911 census:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Newry_South/Mill_Street/256988/

He married Catherine Costello. His father was named John:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1881/10989/8018062.pdf

James would have been born around 1861 so before the start of statutory birth registration. I looked for a death in 1916 but did not find one. How sure are you about that?

Here’s a death for one of James children in 1915:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1915/05268/4462277.pdf


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Re: McClellands, Blacksmiths of Newry
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 22 June 23 23:01 BST (UK) »
Belfast Newsletter Tuesday 14 March 1916

SUDDEN DEATH IN NEWRY

“Yesterday afternoon a blacksmith named Jas McClelland of Mill St, Newry died suddenly when engaged in shoeing a horse at his forge on the Mall. Deceased has 3 sons serving in France.”
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Re: McClellands, Blacksmiths of Newry
« Reply #4 on: Friday 23 June 23 10:27 BST (UK) »
Thankyou folks. all the information posted is indeed the right family. James indeed married Catherine Costello and that marriage cert was a great help. Not only did you confirm his father being John but you confirmed he was living in Highstreet and reaffirmed that he was indeed a blacksmith which I was sure of.  My father grew up in highstreet so to know the family has had a presence around that area for much longer makes sense. I just didn't believe it because, for a generation or two, they moved into the heart of the town.

I had already come to the conclusion that John may have been his fathers name but there was two conflicting wives that where throwing me off. one with the surname Peden and the other McFarland. One thing that is intersting is whilst James McClelland is spelt as such his fathers surname is spelt McLelland. This could be a clue as a Y dna match i have spells his surname McLellan though our family diverges around the 1760s based on the calcualtions of familytreedna

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Re: McClellands, Blacksmiths of Newry
« Reply #5 on: Friday 23 June 23 11:39 BST (UK) »
A Robert McClelland, Farrier, from Water St, died 1895, age 36

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1895/05945/4689231.pdf

He married a Mary McAteer, 1882. His father was Robert also, Horseshoer, High St , Newry

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1882/10974/8011697.pdf

James' witnesses at his wedding were Robert McClelland & Mary McAteer

Looks like they were either brothers or cousins

Robert McClelland Sr, Farrier, died 1883, 24 High St, Newry.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1883/06368/4827284.pdf

The witness at Robert's wedding was a William McClelland, his brother, born 1865, High St, Newry. Parents Robert, Horseshoer, & Ann McClure.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1865/03566/2313848.pdf

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Re: McClellands, Blacksmiths of Newry
« Reply #6 on: Friday 23 June 23 13:17 BST (UK) »
Amazing find. Thankyou again. It would seem like they are cousins. James' Father was John, Roberts's father was Robert and both likely shared the same grandfather another Robert and with ages of deaths and whatnot i should be able to align dates and research further in newspapers.

thankyou again.

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Re: McClellands, Blacksmiths of Newry
« Reply #7 on: Friday 23 June 23 15:14 BST (UK) »
Robert McClelland Sr, Horseshoer, of 34 Water St, married Ann McClure, 1846, in Registrars office. Father listed as Samuel McClelland, Shoe Maker.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1846/09315/5373374.pdf

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Re: McClellands, Blacksmiths of Newry
« Reply #8 on: Friday 23 June 23 15:20 BST (UK) »