Years Looking for Elizabeth Jane Minards buriel

[Kay99]

I think Walter Minards emigrated to Canada in 1908 and was living in Montreal with wife Rose in 1921 working as a carpenter

Kay

[amondg]

All children of Charles Minards and Elizabeth nee Abrahams/Abraham -married 1873 Plymouth Devon

Charles 1875 reg. Plymouth
Alfred Wallace reg 1879 Plymouth
Jessie Ellen reg 1881 Toxeth Park
Walter reg 1885 Toxeth Park
Phillies reg 1887  West Derby
William 1888  reg. West Derby
Retta reg 1889
Reginald 1891  reg West Derby
Francis 1892 reg West Derby
Richard 1897 reg West Derby

Ref: GRO Index

[amondg]

The Charles Minards who drowned on the Formby is listed as being a son of Richard and Mary with wife Margaret Minards of Newton Waterford Ireland.

Ref: War Graves

So when did he marry Margaret? hopefully after 1911

[Heather58]

He married his 2nd wife in October 1911. 

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Three children listed on the gravestone which records his death, in Ballygunnar, Co Waterford

Kitty  1913-1920
John 1917-2007
Retta Minard wren died 2004

Margaret - 1880 - 1976

Have found a birth for John

Birth of JOHN MINARDS on 06 October 1917
Group Registration ID   1610542
SR District/Reg Area   Waterford
Sex   Male
Mother's Birth Surname   DELAHUNTY

Charles appears to have worked a lot on ships out of Waterford

[Mabel Bagshawe]

He married his 2nd wife in October 1911.

The marriage was registered in Q4 ie October - December 1911. So presumably the marriage actually took place very soon after his first wife died in November

[Heather58]

Good evening, is Charles & his wife Margaret listed on the head stone?  Thank you for all your help

[Mabel Bagshawe]

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/249517372/charles-minards?_gl=1*the0lf*_gcl_au*MTU0NDE0NTU4MC4xNjgzNzUyMzc2*_ga*MjAxMzYxODY5LjE2MzA2ODY0MDc.*_ga_4QT8FMEX30*ZjBlODZhN2ItZWNlMC00YjRhLWE3NGMtYmQ1OTBhY2QyYzY3LjYyLjEuMTY4NzcyNzg5Mi4yLjAuMA..

[jonw65]

Burial of Elizabeth Jane Minards at Wallasey, 20 March1911
2nd class (private) grave
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-992H-FHSS

Birth of JOHN MINARDS on 06 October 1917

Image
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1917/01294/1535927.pdf

Death of Catherine, 17 April 1920, age 7
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1920/05121/4409317.pdf

Might be a good idea to get Charles Minards will, proved years after his death on 4 June 1942. Probate (at Llandudno) to widow Margaret Minards.

Margaret Minards died 4 April 1976, at St. Patrick's Hospital, Waterford.
She left a will, probate granted to Sarah Ryan (spinster?)

Haven't found a birth for the second Retta. She was good at shorthand.