Marriage about 1845-1850 of James Dalziel and Janet Sutherland

[Jazgran]

Help please, can anyone find the record of this marriage in Scotland?

[CaroleW]

Whereabouts in Scotland?  When was their first child born?  Can’t see any births with those parents from 1840-1854.

No 1851 entry apart from a James & Janet Dalziel  in Dumfries who have children dating back to 1830

Where did you get your info from re marriage & Janet’s maiden name?

[Jazgran]

Thankyou Carol W for your reply.   I cannot see a marriage for them in England or Wales, so wondered if they married in Scotland.   They appear in the 1851 England census living in Birkenhead, both say born Scotland and with their first child Daniel also born Scotland.   Later children all born England. Later Census mentions James born Lanarkshire and Janet (Jessie) bon Midlothian.

The name "Sutherland" was passed to me by a family member.   I wonder if it is wrong.
 

[trish1120]

No she is nee Sutherland

GRO Birth Reg;

DABZIEL, MARGARET mothers mn SUTHERLAND** 
GRO Reference: 1850  D Quarter in WIRRAL  Volume 19  Page 306

Trish

[trish1120]

It is possible that if they are not on the 1841 Census that either or both of them were married before.

Esp as aged 36 in 1851.
If Jane was married before she would be Jane/t ? at Marriage and English Birth Certs would have her maiden name on GRO

[Jazgran]

Thanks Trish 1120 for your replies.   Yes that is where I got the surname from "Sutherland" using the GRO mothers maiden name.   But I still can't find a marriage for them.   I did find a Janet (Jessie) Sutherland in the 1841 Scotland census.   So am looking for a marriage after 1841 until she appears married to James Dalziel in the 1851 England census.

[trish1120]

Yes I saw that possible for her 1841 in Scotland also.

Maybe they never married or entry is not on line yet.

Hopefully someone else may be able to help

[softly softly]

Info only. Believe James is James Cameron Dalziel born c 1812 died mq 1891. His son Daniel was born c1847 in Wick, Caithness, Scotland according to 1911 census.

John

[Jazgran]

Thanks, John, yes I agree.
Thanks to all for help.   Still no marriage found though.
Jazgran.