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Re: Public houses, Walcot, Billinghay
« Reply #9 on: Friday 30 June 23 13:35 BST (UK) »
So is the photgraph the Wilson Arms?

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Re: Public houses, Walcot, Billinghay
« Reply #10 on: Friday 30 June 23 14:57 BST (UK) »
I think so, but no longer an Inn. The current plough is

Quite a few mentions of the Plough at Walcot in the Newswpaper Archives, including:-

Stamford Mercury 20 August 1875

Grantham Journal 09 December 1949

Sleaford Gazette 04 March 1960

Stamford Mercury 9th October 1885, mentions a building to let - 'Apply to Edward Bellamy, Plough Inn, North Kyme, or Richard Watson, the owner, Billinghay, Lincoln.'

North Kyme is 3 miles from Walcott, and the Pub is still there: https://www.flickr.com/photos/lincolnian/17401058946/in/photostream/

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Re: Public houses, Walcot, Billinghay
« Reply #11 on: Friday 30 June 23 15:13 BST (UK) »
Don’t think this adds much but…

Kelly's Directory 1900, Lincolnshire, Billinghay, Walcot has the following alcohol-related entries:
Morris, John, beer retailer
Skelton, Enoch S., carrier, farmer, & Wilson's Arms P.H.
Vickers, George, beer retailer

which suggests that the Plough did not have a full license. I suppose it could be an Inn and a beerhouse without being a PH.
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Re: Public houses, Walcot, Billinghay
« Reply #12 on: Friday 30 June 23 16:41 BST (UK) »
Don’t think this adds much but…

Kelly's Directory 1900, Lincolnshire, Billinghay, Walcot has the following alcohol-related entries:
Morris, John, beer retailer
Skelton, Enoch S., carrier, farmer, & Wilson's Arms P.H.
Vickers, George, beer retailer

which suggests that the Plough did not have a full license. I suppose it could be an Inn and a beerhouse without being a PH.



It certainly seems that way. My ancestor William Bellamy is listed as beer house keeper and his address is The Plough Inn. I thought it strange it didn't say innkeeper or publican. With Moses it says public house, farmer so maybe he was at The Wilson Arms instead?


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Re: Public houses, Walcot, Billinghay
« Reply #13 on: Friday 30 June 23 16:42 BST (UK) »
I think so, but no longer an Inn. The current plough is

Quite a few mentions of the Plough at Walcot in the Newswpaper Archives, including:-

Stamford Mercury 20 August 1875

Grantham Journal 09 December 1949

Sleaford Gazette 04 March 1960

Stamford Mercury 9th October 1885, mentions a building to let - 'Apply to Edward Bellamy, Plough Inn, North Kyme, or Richard Watson, the owner, Billinghay, Lincoln.'

North Kyme is 3 miles from Walcott, and the Pub is still there: https://www.flickr.com/photos/lincolnian/17401058946/in/photostream/

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Re: Public houses, Walcot, Billinghay
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 01 July 23 12:27 BST (UK) »
I also wondered about the Plough not being a full Public House

In 1911, Joseph Jackson of the Plough Inn, Walcott, had the occupation of 'Publican (Beer House)'

A few references:-

Sleaford Gazette 5 September 1891
'The widow of Mr. William Creasey applied for the transfer of the licence of the "Plough" Inn, Walcot, from her late husband to herself.' 'The house had been licensed for 30 years. There was one fully licensed house, and two beer houses in the village.'
'He should like to obtain protection until next transfer day, for the man to whom they had let the house.'

Sleaford Gazette 10 April 1909
Transfers of Licences:
Plough Inn, Walcot, Mr. Robert William Kelly to Mr. Jos. Jackson;

Grantham Journal 7 November 1908
Robert William Kelly referred to as a 'pig-dealer and publican.'

Sleaford Gazette 22 January 1910
Joseph Jackson, referred to as 'Landlord of the Plough Inn, Walcot.'

Lincolnshire Chronicle 31 May 1913
Joseph Jackson, referred to as 'publican, Walcot.'

Grantham Journal 21 August 1880
Deaths: At Walcot, on the 5th inst., Mr. Moses Creasey, late publican, aged 67.

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Re: Public houses, Walcot, Billinghay
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 01 July 23 19:49 BST (UK) »
Hmmm...so from that then there was 1 public house and 2 beer houses.

I think we have to assume that it was The Wilson Arms that was the public house, as the maps list it as a public house and then The Plough initially was a beer house?

I'm off to find out just what the difference was.

I'm leaning towards Moses Creasey being at The Wilson Arms, as his census entry says public house. William Bellamy I know from the 1881 entry was a beer house keeper at The Plough.

Without any concrete evidence for Moses though its just guessing.

Thank you for all your efforts in this.

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Re: Public houses, Walcot, Billinghay
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 01 July 23 21:36 BST (UK) »
I've put together a chronology of beer retailers and public houses in Walcott. Most items are from directories as noted. Items in square brackets are newspaper mentions. Two things to note:

(1) It seems likely that the Black Horse became the Wilson Arms: see 1872-1876-1885-1889 although 1872-1876-1885 is confusing. If so, Moses Creasey was not at the Black Horse/Wilsons Arms.

(2) 1889-1890 indicates that Mr Mountain's beerhouse was/became the Plough Inn.

Did beerhouses persist with change of ownership? In other words, since Thomas Mountain (1889) 'replaces' John Bellamy (1885) can we assume that this was a single premises, so that John Bellamy was in the premises that came to be known as the Plough Inn?

And does the news item from 1890 suggest that a brewery moved in to Walcott, bought a beerhouse, and named it the Plough Inn?

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[1830 Henry Coupland of the Black Horse Inn, Walcot]

[1834 Robert Parker of the Black Horse Inn, Walcot]

1861, Post Office Directory
Abraham Black, beer retailer
Abraham Black jr., beer retailer
Crosha Bralsford sen., beer retailer & shopkeeper
Moses Creasey, beer retailer
Miss Sarah Parker, Black Horse

1868, Kelly's Directory
Moses Creasey, beer retailer
Thomas Parker, Black Horse
William Sleaford, beer retailer & carrier

1872, Whites
Moses Creasey, beerhouse
William Parker, farmer and victualler, Black Horse
William Sleaford, beerhouse & carrier
William Tong, farmer & beerhouse, Dales

[1876 Willson Arms Inn transferred from John Parker to William Catton]

[1880 Moses Creasey dies]

1885, Kellys
John Bellamy, beer retailer
William Catton, Black Horse PH
John Morris, beer retailer

[1885 Jacob Prior, Wilson Arms]

1889, Kellys
John Morris, beer retailer
Thomas Mountain, beer retailer
Jacob Prior, Wilson's Arms PH

21 June 1890, Grantham Journal
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Mr Jessop applied for a new license for the Plough Inn, Walcot, the property of the Lincoln & Burton Brewery Co. the late tenant, a man named Mountain, having either lost of destroyed the original license. – Granted.

1896, Kellys
William Brooks, beer retailer & shoemaker
John Morris, beer retailer
Jacob Prior, Wilson's Arms PH
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Re: Public houses, Walcot, Billinghay
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 04 July 23 14:16 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much for searching for all of that.

So we can definitely rule out Moses being at The Wilson Arms then.

I'm now trying to discover who John Bellamy was. With a name of Bellamy he's potentially a relative but its just now finding if he fits in and where. I did think he might be a son of William but although William has a son, John he is listed as a farmer on the Census Returns, so maybe not, but cant rule it out since Moses was both.