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Re: James Ramsay and Ann Low, Catholics brick wall
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 02 July 23 11:26 BST (UK) »


"James was certainly Catholic, from County Tyrone, Ireland"

The marriage certificate, 1865, gives Tyrone as location for father James MacDONALD. 

What is your reference for James MacDONALD, married 1865, Church of Scotland, to be Catholic?

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Re: James Ramsay and Ann Low, Catholics brick wall
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 02 July 23 11:46 BST (UK) »


"James was certainly Catholic, from County Tyrone, Ireland"

The marriage certificate, 1865, gives Tyrone as location for father James MacDONALD. 

What is your reference for James MacDONALD, married 1865, Church of Scotland, to be Catholic?

His daughter Ann MacDonald went on to marry James Salmond in a Catholic marriage. Since I haven't found any Salmonds during my research outside of the Church of Scotland I have assumed the Catholic side were the MacDonald's from Ireland and/or Ramsay's  Unless of course Ann MacDonald herself converted but I thought that was unlikely.
North West, North Wales and Isle of Man:

Ward, Campbell, Cowin, Cowell, Parry, Fryer, Davies, Hughes, Briscoe, Jones, Spencer, Brownbill, Crowfoot, Nield, Randles, Youde

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Ormond, Salmond, Cook, MacDonald

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Re: James Ramsay and Ann Low, Catholics brick wall
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 04 July 23 04:51 BST (UK) »
You are considering the possibility that? -

Ann RAMSAY     marr.  James MacDONALD  1865  (ps. James RAMSAY / Ann LOW)
William BLACK  marr.   Mary Ann THOMSON 1870 (ps. William BLACK / Ann LOW)...both deceased

Ann LOW, same woman,  is mother to Ann and William  ie they are half siblings?

Is this your family?

Ancestry Census Scotland 1871   at 1 Church St Arbroath Angus
MACDONALD James        38y    masons labourer   b. Ireland
MACDONALD Ann            28y                              b. Peterhead Fife
MACDONALD Margaret      4y                               b. St Vigeans  Forfarshire
MACDONALD James          3y                               b. Arbroath
MACDONALD William        6mts                            b. Arbroath

Ancestry Census Scotland 1881   at 21 Smithy Croft Arbroath Angus
McDONALD James            48y   general lab.         b. Ireland
McDONALD Ann                40y                            b. Pathhead Fifeshire
McDONALD Mary               14y  millworker           b. Arbroath Forfarshire
McDONALD James             13y  ropemaker app.   b. Arbroath Forfarshire
McDONALD William           10y   scholar               b. Arbroath Forfarshire
McDONALD John                 7y   scholar               b. Arbroath Forfarshire
McDONALD Helen               5y                            b. Arbroath Forfarshire
McDONALD Peter                3y                            b. Arbroath Forfarshire

second household at same address

KING Peter                      68y  scavenger            b. Ireland
KING Margaret                 27y  dau  spinner        b. Arbroath Forfarshire