Marriage in Sheffield? - Marrison/Salmon ?

[Gerry]

Free BMD records the birth of Charles Herbert Marrison in Jun Q 1857: Sheffield 9c/284 mmn Salmon.

Family gossip handed down the years mentions John Marrison born c.1798 who married 'Alice' and they had a son Charles Herbert.   Alice's surname is unknown and I've had no success in finding a marriage record for a Marrison/Salmon.  Perhaps there was no marriage?

Family folklore also adds that John Marrison had a previous marriage in the 1820's to a lady also named Alice (surname unknown)  with children including Thomas, Richard Martha, Elizabeth born in the 1830s.

Grateful for some help in putting some flesh on the bones from these basic facts.

[rosie99]

Is this his marriage
MARRISON, Charles Herbert  age 24, occ Bolt Maker, abode 8 Blue Boy St.
REGAN, Margaret
16 October 1881,
Sheffield Parish Church, Church Street, Sheffield. 
Father John Marrison,deceased occ Bricklayer.
Witnesses    William Plunkett & Mary Ellen Regan

[Gerry]

Thanks Rosie, yes this is Charles Herbert's marriage record.    Let's see what can be found about his parents and his father's earlier marriage.

[rosie99]

Do you have the family on census

[tazzie]

There is a death in 1854 Doncaster for

 Alice Marrison aged 60.

In 1841.high st Blyth Yorks.
John Marrison 40 bricklayer.
Alice.             38 parents not born in county.
Thomas.         13
Martha.            8
Elizabeth.         6
John                 2
Freebmd has a John Harrison born 1838 Doncaster not on GRO

[CaroleW]

1851 census ref Piece 2348  folio 364 page 4.  John & Alice Marrison

[CaroleW]

Alice was too old to have had a son in 1857

Would suggest the way forward would be to buy a copy of his birth cert & see what parents names are given.  PDF copies are available for that period so only £7 instead if £11

[tazzie]

Alice was too old to have had a son in 1857

Would suggest the way forward would be to buy a copy of his birth cert & see what parents names are given

Found a death for Alice 1854 but cannot see which marriage matches as Salmon (mmn)

[tazzie]

Ok.
 He must be just Herbert in 1861 as...in Sheffield

 John Harrison 58 year m Howarth Yorkshire bricklayer.
 MARY MARRISON 43 wife m Eakring Nottinghamshire
 Herbert 3 son  un  Sheffield

Rg9 P3483 f 86 p6.

 A Mary Salmon baptised in Eakring.
Father William mother Ann. 7 Dec 1817.