Help deciphering 1871 Census for Margaret McDonald b.c1826 Scotland

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1851 Kildavanan Cottage, North Bute
MCDONALD   Peter   Head   55   Herring Fisherman   Argyllshire   Inverary      
MCDONALD   Catherine   Wife   52      Argyllshire   Inverchaolain      
MCDONALD   Janet   Dau   20   House Servant   Argyllshire   Kilfinan      
MCDONALD   Peter   Son   16   Farm Labourer   Bute   North Bute      
MCDONALD   Margaret   Dau   13   Scholar   Bute   North Bute      
MCDONALD   Mary   Dau   11   Scholar   Bute   North Bute      

Still there in 1861, Margaret only child with them age 23. So not the family?

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This might help others?

1861 Towngate, Stoney Middleton,    Derbyshire

GARLIC   James   Head   M   46   Agri Lab   Staffordshire   Castle Gate      
GARLIC   Margret   Wife   M   35      Scotland   -      
GARLIC   Catherine   Dau   -   3      Derbyshire   Stoney Middleton      
GARLIC   Charles J   Son   -   8m      Derbyshire   Stoney Middleton      
MC DONALD   Catherine   Ma-Law   W   63      Scotland   -      
MC DONALD   Catherine   Sislaw   S   19   Cotton Spinner   Lancashire   Liverpool      
MC DONALD   William   Nephew   -   6   Scholar   Lancashire   Manchester      
MC DONALD   Julia   Niece   -      1m      Derbyshire   Stoney Middleton

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GARLICK, JAMES       75 
GRO Reference: 1889  J Quarter in CHESTERFIELD  Volume 07B  Page 378

GARLICK, MARGARET       67 
GRO Reference: 1894  D Quarter in CHESTERFIELD  Volume 07B  Page 376

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The marriage parish record is on Family Search and confirms Peter was a Soldier.

Catherine McDonald   Marriage 1 October 1866  Chesterfield, Derbyshire
Birth 1841  Parents Peter McDonald Spouse Frank Duffield

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1861 census  MC DONALD   Julia   Niece   -      1m      Derbyshire   Stoney Middleton

Baptised 20th April 1861 Stoney Middleton, only mother recorded as parent.

John

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MC DONALD   William   Nephew   -   6   Scholar   Lancashire   Manchester      

Rosemary, from the 1861 census entry, have you got anywhere in trying to trace who this nephew, William McDonald, could be the son of? Too old to be an illegitimate son to Margaret's sister, Catherine. Julia could well be Catherine's daughter though.

Two possible births showing on the GRO around the right time in Manchester for William:

MCDONALD, WILLIAM        -  No additional maiden name showing for mother
GRO Reference: 1854  J Quarter in MANCHESTER  Volume 08D  Page 259

MCDONALD, WILLIAM        GLYNN     
GRO Reference: 1854  D Quarter in MANCHESTER  Volume 08D  Page 105 - From www.lan-opc.org.uk I think this William may have been the son of a Michael McDonald and Catherine Glynn.

Monica

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The place of birth, looks like "Lock of erin" to me?

There is also  this baptism:
At St Peters Liverpool (Roman Catholic)
Catherine, born 6 Nov, Baptised 1 Dec 1841
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Can't find a civil registration  - which leads me to wonder if it was an Army registers birth?

Ambly,

Thank you very much for your thoughtful reply. It's so good to have another pair of eyes for a fresh perspective! I will bear Loch Earn in mind, in my search. Although both daughters Margaret and Catherine married within the Church of England, I have wondered already if the family had been  Roman Catholic, so yes, the baptism to Patrick and Catherine is possible. I have been looking for appropriate Military records, but as you can imagine with a name like M[a]cdonald, it's difficult to tell how appropriate they may be.

Rosemary

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1861 census  MC DONALD   Julia   Niece   -      1m      Derbyshire   Stoney Middleton

Baptised 20th April 1861 Stoney Middleton, only mother recorded as parent.

John,

Thank you for this, and your earlier suggestion re the 1851 Census entry. I have to admit that seeing Margaret in Derbyshire before her marriage in 1856 at Rotherham (Yorkshire) has a certain attraction. However as you can imagine, with such a common surname as M[a]cdonald, nothing seems certain, apart from in 1861. Catherine, the mother died shortly after the Census, and was buried at Stoney Middleton on 25 Feb 1862.

Thanks again,
Rosemary

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I wonder about this possible Margaret in 1851.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SG5Q-K87

Many thanks for this suggestion. I'll certainly bear it in mind, considering the family's connection with Liverpool. :-)

Rosemary