McGrath and Norris from Ballyporeen

[mfjcase]

My 2x great grandparents were James McGrath and Margaret Norris from Ballyporeen/Gurtishall, Tipperary. They were both born around 1820 and according to what I believe was their marriage documentation, they were married in Clogheen in 1843 with the parish variant noted as Ballyporeen. James and Margaret appear in Griffith's valuation for "Gorteeshal," which is near Ballyporeen, though James is crossed out and Margaret's name was inserted around 1882, indicating that James likely died before 1882.

James and Margaret had at least eight children: my ggm Alice (1849/50), Margaret (1948), John (1849), James (1852), Ellen (1856), Thomas (1858), Michael (1862), and Mary (1866). It appears that all of the children except John left Ireland for Boston around 1880-90. Though I am interested in finding connections in Tipperary for James and Margaret Norris, Margaret McGrath married John Hogan and lived in Plymouth/Rockland, MA; Ellen married Foxwell Mulligan and lived in Quincy, MA; and Mary married Cornelius Dahill and lived in East Bridgewater, MA.

John appears to have married Eliza/Elizabeth Cahill in 1896 and appears in the 1901 and 1911 census, along with who appears to be his mother Margaret Norris (85 y/o in 1911) and several children. I have DNA matches with other McGraths in the area, but have had no luck moving back another generation or finding any info about the Norris family. Any help would be appreciated.

[Kiltaglassan]

Some links-

James and Margaret appear in Griffith's valuation for "Gorteeshal," which is near Ballyporeen... 

...and Mary (1866).

John appears to have married Eliza/Elizabeth Cahill in 1896 and appears in the 1901 and 1911 census, along with who appears to be his mother Margaret Norris (85 y/o in 1911) and several children.

Gorteeshal townland
https://www.townlands.ie/tipperary/iffa-and-offa-west/templetenny/ballyporeen/gorteeshal/
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5554819

Clogheen
Diocese of Waterford and Lismore | County of Tipperary
Variant forms of parish name:
Ballysheehan
Shanrahan
Ballyporeen
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0116

There's a death of a James MAGRATH at Gortishal [sic] on 4 January 1877. The informant an Ellen Magrath.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1877/020555/7212938.pdf

Mary 1866
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1866/03506/2288772.pdf

Marriage 1896
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1896/10483/2818057.pdf

1911 census (Margaret aged 85 as McGrath)
House 1 in Gorteeshal (Ballyporeen, Tipperary)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Ballyporeen/Gorteeshal/814349/

[Kiltaglassan]

...his mother Margaret Norris (85 y/o in 1911)...

She died 9 April 1911 aged 85 yrs. Her daughter-in-law Eliza McGrath was the informant.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1911/05393/4505935.pdf

[mfjcase]

Some links-

James and Margaret appear in Griffith's valuation for "Gorteeshal," which is near Ballyporeen... 

...and Mary (1866).

John appears to have married Eliza/Elizabeth Cahill in 1896 and appears in the 1901 and 1911 census, along with who appears to be his mother Margaret Norris (85 y/o in 1911) and several children.

Gorteeshal townland
https://www.townlands.ie/tipperary/iffa-and-offa-west/templetenny/ballyporeen/gorteeshal/
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5554819

Clogheen
Diocese of Waterford and Lismore | County of Tipperary
Variant forms of parish name:
Ballysheehan
Shanrahan
Ballyporeen
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0116

There's a death of a James MAGRATH at Gortishal [sic] on 4 January 1877. The informant an Ellen Magrath.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1877/020555/7212938.pdf

Mary 1866
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1866/03506/2288772.pdf

Marriage 1896
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1896/10483/2818057.pdf

1911 census (Margaret aged 85 as McGrath)
House 1 in Gorteeshal (Ballyporeen, Tipperary)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Ballyporeen/Gorteeshal/814349/

Thank you - I saw some of those docs, but not the death of James. Ellen was likely his daughter and the year kind of makes sense - most of the McGraths left for the US in the late 1870s/early 1880s - they may have decided to leave after the father died.

[mfjcase]

I want to add that the name Condon comes up frequently in this line, though I have no way to connect it. Alice McGrath, my ggm, married William Casey in Boston in 1881 and a William Casey (probably a Casey cousin of the groom) and Joan or Johanna Condon were the witnesses. I know Condon is a common Tipperary name and I've seen it in the Ballyporeen area. In 1884, at the baptism of one of their children, the godmother was Joan Casey (the she may have married into the Casey family by that point). The Pilot missing friends section shows a John Casey living with a David Condon, and my ggm's sister Mary McGrath and her husband Cornelius Dahill boarded with a Thomas Condon in East Bridgewater, MA around 1889.