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Re: Please help to date an old photo from Southwark, London. Sullivan or Westrop
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 13 July 23 13:09 BST (UK) »
What type of photo it is will dictate when it was taken.
Is it a cabinet card type or postcard type.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
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Re: Please help to date an old photo from Southwark, London. Sullivan or Westrop
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 13 July 23 13:26 BST (UK) »
Quote from: jim1 on Thursday 13 July 23 13:09 BST (UK)
What type of photo it is will dictate when it was taken.
Is it a cabinet card type or postcard type.

Hi Jim1,

I'm not really sure what the difference is but the photo is quite small - not postcard size. From memory I would say it was about 10cm in height and about 6cm in width. Sorry I can't be more accurate.

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Re: Please help to date an old photo from Southwark, London. Sullivan or Westrop
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 13 July 23 16:16 BST (UK) »
Sounds about the size of a cabinet card so more
likely the earlier date.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: Please help to date an old photo from Southwark, London. Sullivan or Westrop
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 13 July 23 16:59 BST (UK) »
Quote from: jim1 on Thursday 13 July 23 16:16 BST (UK)
Sounds about the size of a cabinet card so more
likely the earlier date.

Thank you Jim1 for your appraisal.

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Re: Please help to date an old photo from Southwark, London. Sullivan or Westrop
« Reply #13 on: Friday 14 July 23 11:38 BST (UK) »
Hello again,

as it is difficult to establish whether it is Victoria of Adelaide, I thought I would post one which is definitely Adelaide. The photo however is of a similar size to the first one.

Does this help any?

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Re: Please help to date an old photo from Southwark, London. Sullivan or Westrop
« Reply #14 on: Friday 14 July 23 11:51 BST (UK) »
Not sure if this helps. They are very similar but??

Gadget

PS - identical mouths?
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Re: Please help to date an old photo from Southwark, London. Sullivan or Westrop
« Reply #15 on: Friday 14 July 23 12:11 BST (UK) »
I'm not convinced the 2nd. photo is 1920's either.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

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Re: Please help to date an old photo from Southwark, London. Sullivan or Westrop
« Reply #16 on: Friday 14 July 23 12:52 BST (UK) »
Quote from: jim1 on Friday 14 July 23 12:11 BST (UK)
I'm not convinced the 2nd. photo is 1920's either.

Hi Jim1,

I am 99% certain that the second photo is Adelaide. It has her named on the back, and I have later photos in which you can see the resemblance. Is the size of the photo, cabinet sized, which gives you pause? Or other factors as well?

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Re: Please help to date an old photo from Southwark, London. Sullivan or Westrop
« Reply #17 on: Friday 14 July 23 13:03 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Gadget on Friday 14 July 23 11:51 BST (UK)
Not sure if this helps. They are very similar but??

Gadget

PS - identical mouths?

Hi Gadget,

yes, that really does help. Thank you. The mouths and chins are very similar. Also you can see how the hair might grow thicker as she grew older. Addie had absolutely stunning light auburn hair.

I'm coming to think now they may be the same child. What ages do people think they may be? I thought they were roughly the same age which made me think they were different, but the first pic maybe 3ish and the second 4ish?

I would point out that this branch of the family were not very affluent at the time which may have bearing on the original photo size.

Regards,

B

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