Cherry confusion

[anniecat]

I am trying very hard to sort out the Thomas Cherrys of Feetham in Swaledale and I am struggling.

One Thomas Cherry acquired the tenancy of Call Garth in Feetham in 1720.  He was buried on 2 January 1756 at Grinton and it is recorded in the manorial records that Thomas the older surrendered his tenancy to Thomas the younger.  His admon shows that his widow, Ann, was his administrator and a signatory was Thomas Cherry yeoman of Feetham, who I assume is his son.  I can find no later reference to Call Garth in the Healaugh manorial records.  I think his widow was buried as Ann Cherry of Low Row in February 1764.

Ann Simpson acquired the tenancy of West Close and West Bank at Feetham in 1693.  She married a Thomas Cherry at Grinton on 23 June 1719.  At her burial at Grinton 4 July 1771 she was described as widow of Thomas, and of Feetham.  The manorial records show that her tenancy was divided between her 3 sons James, George (through his daughter Mary) and Thomas following her death. 

I do not think the two Thomases are the same person. I doubt very much that Ann (nee Simpson) would be described as widow of Thomas if he had died 16 years earlier.  However, I cannot find a marriage of a second Thomas and Ann before 1717 (which is when the most likely Thomas s/o Thomas was baptised) or a burial of another Thomas between 1756 and 1771.  The marriage of Thomas and Hannah Raw in 1713 is not the missing marriage.  I believe Hannah's son Thomas was born in 1728 and the family had moved to Kearton soon afterwards and remained in that area.

Is anybody able to help me unravel this knotty problem?  All suggestions welcome!

Judith

[anniecat]

I have found a burial of a Thomas Cherry in the right timeframe, but I had allocated it elsewhere, and it would mean that Thomas and Ann (nee Simpson) surely had lived apart.

Thomas Cherry, householder of East Stonsdale buried 9 June 1771 at Muker St Mary.

Do you think that he is the husband of Ann Simpson?
Judith

[ColC]

If this is the family which you describe it all seems to fit. Records on freereg as transcribed.

Father Thomas – other children noted as abode as Feetholm/e
Thomas CHERRY   Baptism   09 May 1680   Yorkshire, North Riding   Grinton : St Andrew

Father George.
Ann SIMPSON   Baptism   16 Apr 1693   Yorkshire, North Riding   Grinton : St Andrew : Other Transcript

An SIMPSON to Thomas CHERRY   Marriage   23 Jun 1719   Yorkshire, North Riding   Grinton : St Andrew : Other Transcript

Children  baptisms Grinton : St Andrew. Father Thomas abode Fetholme (There may be more)?

Mary CHERRY 19 Jun 1720 burial 13 Apr 1730?
Deborah CHERRY 8 Nov 1720
                       No baptism but burial Thomas 23 May 1722
James CHERRY 9 Sep 1722 burial 9 Sep 1722
James CHERRY 1 Sep 1723
George CHERRY 14 Nov 1725
Robert CHERRY 10 Apr 1726
Alice CHERRY 1 Sep 1728
Thomas CHERRY 4 Nov 1728
James CHERRY 4 Jul 1731
Thomas CHERRY 8 Jun 1735

There are also baptisms for Edward 1731 & George 1734 father Thomas Cherry abode Kearton?

Other burials abode Fetholme, Father Thomas Cherry
, George 15 Apr 1723, Ellin 15 Sep 1723, Edward 13 Jan 1723/24, Thomas 1 Feb 1724/25

Ann CHERRY   Burial   04 Jul 1771   Yorkshire, North Riding   Grinton : St Andrew : abode Feetham. Widow of Thomas of Feetham.
Despite the gap she was his widow, family would be able to note the information.

Thos CHERY   Burial   02 Jan 1756   Yorkshire, North Riding   Grinton : St Andrew : 
abode  Feetholm

Colin

[anniecat]

Thank you for your interest and reply, Colin.

There are lots of Thomas Cherrys to grapple with: Thomas (s/o Edward) ch 9 April 1676; Thomas (s/o Thomas) ch 9 May 1680; Thomas s/o George (born c 1690); Thomas s/o James (born c 1695) all at Feetham or Melbecks.

I think the family of Thomas s/o Edward is Ann (1714), Ellin (1715/6 - 1723), Mary (1720), James (1722 or 1723), Robert (1726), Thomas (1728), Edward (1731 Kearton), George (1734 Kearton).  I have this Thomas marrying Hannah Raw in 1713.

I think the family of Thomas s/o George is Deborah (1720), James (1722 or 1723 or 1731), George (1725), Alice (1728), Thomas (1735).  I have this Thomas marrying Ann Simpson in 1719.

Which leaves me with Thomas born 1717 who will be the son of either Thomas s/o Thomas, or Thomas s/o James. [He may have brothers James (1722, 1723 or 1731) and/or Robert (1726) and possibly sisters Ann and/or Ellin].  I want the father of this Thomas to be the Thomas buried in 1756 with a wife Ann, but I cannot find a marriage for them.

If only there were family bibles or wills to help sort them out ...

Judith

[ColC]

These are all the records I could find on freereg or family search.

Thomas CHERY married Ann SPENCLEY 22 May 1643 Grinton : St Andrew
(Parents of those below)?

Children baptised Grinton : St Andrew

Male Chery 21 Apr 1644 (I’m guessing this was Edward)?

Abode Blaydes
George CHIRRIE  28 Sep 1645

Abode Fethome
Thomas CHERRE 31 Mar 1650
James CHERY 11 Jul 1658

Grinton : St Andrew Yorkshire, North Riding  (unless noted)

Edward CHIRY married Mary FRIER 6 May 1673
Baptisms unless noted
Thomas Cherry 15 Nov 1674 burial 10 Jun 1675 abode Feetholme
Thomas CHERRY 9 April 1676; abode Melbecks
George CHIRY 15 Jan 1681/82 abode Law Raw
James Cherry 12 Oct 1684 abode Feetholme
Mary Cherry 30 Sep 1689 abode Feetholme

Thomas Cherry Feetholm/e No marriage?

Thomas Cherry 9 May 1680
Elizabeth16 Apr 1682
Unknown 20 Jul 1684
Margaret14 Nov 1686 & 17 Aug 1689

Georg CHERRY married Deborah WENSLEY married 11 Dec 1689
Thomas (born c 1690); No baptisms father George?

Thomas s/o James (born c 1695). No marriage for James or baptism for Thomas?
Robert CHERRY 19 Jun 1700 abode Melbecks
James Cherry 28 Feb 1702/3 abode Feetholme

You listed four Thomas Cherry’s born in Grinton and there are two burials and two marriages, I was limited on the information I could find on George but you may be correct with your thoughts on the two marriages.

Burials Grinton: St Andrew

Thomas CHERRY 23 May 1722 and Thomas CHERRY 1725 both Fetholme
Sadly no ages noted an as there were no relationships mentioned they may have been single adults?

Marriage Grinton : St Andrew

Thomas CHERRY to Hanna RAW 21 Jun 1713

Thomas CHERRY to An SIMPSON23 Jun 1719

Colin

[ColC]

I notice on Ancestry that they have the Grinton parish records. The two Thomas Cherry deaths 1722 & 1725 are listed, are you able to access these to see if ages or any detail are included?
My membership has expired.

Colin

[BumbleB]

No age for either 1722 or 1724 burials.

23 May 1722 - Thomas Cherry of Fetholme
1 February 1724 - Thomas Cherry of Fetholme

[anniecat]

Hi again, Colin.
The Thomas Cherry of Feetham who died in 1722 was a smelter and left a will.  He names a son Thomas and daughters Ann, Hannah, and Tamer and two sons in law (who married daughters Margaret and Elizabeth).
I only know that the Thomas Cherry who died in Feb 1724/5 was of Feetham.  As he is not described as a son of anybody, I assume he was an adult.
Also relevant, I think, are the deaths of Thomas, son of Thomas Cherry, who was buried in July 1733 of Low Row, and I assume his father Thomas Cherry of Low Row in April 1747.
The missing years in the Grinton registers (most of 1690 - 1696) is most frustrating!

Judith