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Help Needed Looking For Marion Clifford's Sister, Anne or Annie plz
« on: Friday 14 July 23 17:00 BST (UK) »
Greetings Folks,

I'm hoping that some of you forumites & learned people can help steer me into some much needed information on my Grandmother's Sister.

I know nothing of her, until last night, my 92 year old Father mentioned her to me, just before turning in for bed.

My ONLY starting point is that my Dad's Mum is/was named "Gertrude Marion Clifford"

Gertrude Marion Clifford was born in 1902 in Croome D'Abitot, Worcestershire.

She died in Norfolk, in 1988, already a widower

She married William J Hudson - I believe that was in the mid-late 1920's

I know they lived in Becontree Heath (Essex) in the 1930's onwards, as he became a Steam Locomotive Driver in 1935

My Dad mentioned that Gertrude Marion Clifford had a sister, too

Alas he doesn't know "if" this Sister, named either Anne or Annie was older or younger than his Mum ?

It's Anne or Annie that I'm really seeking out, as she eventually gave birth to a Son, who later went on to serve in the B.E.F aka "British Expeditionary Force" & was apparently "Blinded At Dunkirk" in either Late May or Early June 1940.

I know my Nan WAS born in Croome D'Abitot in 1902 and that's pretty much all I've got to go on.....

..... other than her Sister Anne or Annie went to go live at a place called "Great Barr" in Birmingham, formerly under the borders of Staffordshire

BTW ; I know for a fact that neither she (Anne or Annie), nor her poor son Bert, or Bertram are still alive...

Bert, or Bertram apparently (due to his blindness & subsequent divorce) regrettably took his own life some time in the late 1940's or very, very early 1950's.

It's both HIM and his Mum specifically that I'd like to know about.... please....

I honestly wish I had more detail to submit, but my Dad's 92 y/o & his memory is fading & if I don't do it soon, he'll never know.....

Thanks for reading & many thanks in advance for those who could help me trace Anne or Annie Clifford, or and Bert (Bertram) her Ex Army B.E.F son

Cheers,
Am interested in N.W.Norfolk Hudsons in the Docking, Sedgeford, Heacham & Hunstanton regions,

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Re: Help Needed Looking For Marion Clifford's Sister, Anne or Annie plz
« Reply #1 on: Friday 14 July 23 17:07 BST (UK) »
Have you looked for Gertrude on the 1911 census?  It shows an Annie Clifford aged 12 b Pirton

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7BS-XFR

Birth reg shows she was Annie Elizabeth b Dec qtr 1898
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Re: Help Needed Looking For Marion Clifford's Sister, Anne or Annie plz
« Reply #2 on: Friday 14 July 23 17:15 BST (UK) »
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Re: Help Needed Looking For Marion Clifford's Sister, Anne or Annie plz
« Reply #3 on: Friday 14 July 23 17:17 BST (UK) »
Possible marriage for Annie  :-\
Marriages Dec 1921   
Biddle    Albert V    (spouse Clifford)   
Clifford    Annie E    (spouse Biddle)
Birmingham    6d   570


Deleted as Annie was showing as married in 1921 census
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Re: Help Needed Looking For Marion Clifford's Sister, Anne or Annie plz
« Reply #4 on: Friday 14 July 23 17:23 BST (UK) »
That 1921 marriage cert is online & shows her as Annie Eliza - father James
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Re: Help Needed Looking For Marion Clifford's Sister, Anne or Annie plz
« Reply #5 on: Friday 14 July 23 17:26 BST (UK) »
Thanks Carole,  I have just deleted it as Annie is with her mother in 1921 and already married
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Re: Help Needed Looking For Marion Clifford's Sister, Anne or Annie plz
« Reply #6 on: Friday 14 July 23 17:27 BST (UK) »
Annie married Archie C E Bright in 1918  :)

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Re: Help Needed Looking For Marion Clifford's Sister, Anne or Annie plz
« Reply #7 on: Friday 14 July 23 17:27 BST (UK) »
Possible marriage to Archie C E Bright in 1918.  Son Bertram W E b 1920

EDIT

He was Bertram William Edward & is not with the family in 1939
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Re: Help Needed Looking For Marion Clifford's Sister, Anne or Annie plz
« Reply #8 on: Friday 14 July 23 17:30 BST (UK) »
Bertram married in 1944 and died in 1964 - see freebmd for dates etc

ADDED 2nd marriage in 1951  :)
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