Robert Hood & Elizabeth Watters, Sorn, Ayrshire

[SOFEE]

Elizabeth Berkley Watters marrying Robert Montgomery 1857 (Statutory registers Marriages 595/ 27)

That all looks good Sofee

Children:
Elizabeth Barclay Montgomery - born 1858 Dalry
John Montgomery – born 1860 Dalry
Walter Montgomery – born 1862 Kilmarnock

Montgomery family living at Shawhill Farm, Riccarton in 1861 census. But the son Robert Hood is not there with his mother.

Elizabeth Barkley (Watters) Montgomery died 1862 Kilmarnock – probably due to birth of son Walter.
Her widower husband Robert then married Agnes Park.

I just got all that this morning too thanks..... actually Elizabeth age 26 died of typhoid fever two months after giving birth to Walter. then that poor wee soul died at only 9 months old in troon at grandparents ... i think cause was a convulsion that lasted 15mins. i also got Robert Montgomery  and Agnes Park both widows marriage certificate ...all thanks to you ...you started the ball rolling with that first bit of information you gave me ...I so appreciate all your time helping me  .

big thanks
sofee

[SOFEE]

Robert Hood married in 1876
Do you have this marriage certificate?
What is recorded as his occupation?
Who were the witnesses at the marriage?
What is his address?

I see in the 1881 / 1891 / 1901 census that he was a coach maker / railway carriage maker.
So he would have served an apprenticeship – as that was skilled work.

Yes I do have the son Roberts marriage cert. he married
Margaret Dunn a widow on 28 july  1876
@46 Houldsworth, Glasgow Anderston, Lanarkshire,
address 5 Belgrove St. Glasgow
his occupation coachmaker
his Father Robert Hoods Occupation Civil Engineer
witnesses were Campbell Zelt? cant make his name out and Elizabeth Lockhead was the other witness

[SOFEE]

I see in the 1881 / 1891 / 1901 census that he was a coach maker / railway carriage maker.
So he would have served an apprenticeship – as that was skilled work.

yes thats all correct I have the info on those census records too . I'm sure he must have done his apprenticeship for a job coachmaker journeyman but im not sure if there would be records back then of apprentices etc like there are today Neale?

[SOFEE]

Added - this Robert Hood was the father of an illegitimate child previously.
https://www.scottishindexes.com/courtentry.aspx?courtid=7002026

I just saw this Neale...hmmm thats interesting.....

I found a couple of possibles for Robert Hood one of which he was born in Ireland ...I cant find it again im still searching ...I got my DNA done and I'm 26% Irish the only other ancestor I've come across so far thats Irish is Margaret Dunn who married the son of Robert Hood & Elizabeth Watters ...I'll keep you posted if i find any more on that Robert Hood Neale

[MonicaL]

Sofee, this is another possibility for Robert Hood in 1851:

Alexander Hood 52 coal miner
Ephemin Hood 47
John Hood 20 coal miner
Robert Hood 18 coal miner b. Newton Midlothian
Esablla Mood 17
Elisbeth Mood 16
William Mood 14 coal miner   
Enphame Hood 9
Agnes Hood 7
Catherine Mood 4
Robert James  77 Visitor
Robert Mitchill 21 Lodger

Address Arniston Engine, Arniston, Midlothian.

Monica

[MonicaL]

Although the Robert above in his 1851 census entry showed as born in Midlothian, 1841 shows him as born outside the county. This could be his birth & christening details:

Robert Hood
Birth Date 12 Jun 1832
Baptism Date 29 Jul 1832
Baptism Place Carnbee, Fife, Scotland
Father Alexander Hood
Mother Euphemia Innes

There are possible entries in the US showing this family, indicating that at least Robert left for the US before 1858.

A marriage in Illinois for this Robert to a Teresa Mary Ann Vivian on 18 Sep 1858 in Mcdonough, Illinois.

1870 (see link on page) and 1880 US census entries for him and family in Illinois www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MXJJ-XPT

He died in 1882 www.findagrave.com/memorial/150431990/robert-hood

His mother, Euphemia, in 1874 www.findagrave.com/memorial/165884973/euphema-hood

Monica

[MonicaL]

The big question though, is he the correct Robert Hood 

Monica

[SOFEE]

Although the Robert above in his 1851 census entry showed as born in Midlothian, 1841 shows him as born outside the county. This could be his birth & christening details:

Robert Hood
Birth Date 12 Jun 1832
Baptism Date 29 Jul 1832
Baptism Place Carnbee, Fife, Scotland
Father Alexander Hood
Mother Euphemia Innes

There are possible entries in the US showing this family left for the US before 1858.

A marriage in Illinois for this Robert to a Teresa Mary Ann Vivian on 18 Sep 1858 in Mcdonough, Illinois.

1870 (see link on page) and 1880 US census entries for him and family in Illinois.

He died in 1882 www.findagrave.com/memorial/150431990/robert-hood

His mother, Euphemia, in 1874 www.findagrave.com/memorial/165884973/euphema-hood

Monica

thanks for that info Monica I dont think this my Robert Hood very much doubt they went to US. but you never know. I've put that info in my possibles box (its getting fuller by the day lol)

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Alexander Hood 52 coal miner
Ephemin Hood 47
John Hood 20 coal miner
Robert Hood 18 coal miner b. Newton Midlothian
Esablla Mood 17
Elisbeth Mood 16
William Mood 14 coal miner   
Enphame Hood 9
Agnes Hood 7
Catherine Mood 4
Robert James  77 Visitor
Robert Mitchill 21 Lodger

Address Arniston Engine, Arniston, Midlothian.

I've had this one in my "possibles" for a good few months I'm sure this is the area/colliery is quite near Hunterfield, Gorebridge, Midlothian,where the minister wrote where Robert the father came from on the birth record for son Robert Hood .
there is a man who  has written a very good article on the history of coal mining and how the Hood family were greatly involved hes also done a genealogy of the Hoods but he was unsure if at all my Robert was one of them..I'm still studying his findings heres the link if your interested at all Monica

 https://hoodfamily.info/hood/hood.html

thanks again for that info the cock pen Robert Hood is defo on my possibles list  I appreciate the time youve put into trying to help me solve the Robert Hood problem lol
sofee