Annaloist Co. Armagh residents from Northern Ireland, Valuation Revision Books

[Sunnyhill]

Heading on images is 'Annaloist 1908-1920'  but listed as 1916 by Ancestry
There is a lot of crossing out. I guess they enter the occupants in 1908 originally then if they are replaced the cross them out and add in new occupants up until the end of the period - 1920

Occupier /
Immediate Lessors

Image 11
Hugh Hayes/
John Y. Burgess

John McLinden/
John Y. Burgess

John Baxter [? Baxter xd out]/
John Y. Burgess

Francis Burrell/
John Y. Burgess

Francis Cassells/
John Y. Burgess

Mary A Cassells/
John Y. Burgess

John McAlinden Jnr/
John Y. Burgess

George Geddis/
John Y. Burgess

Image 12
? McLinden [John McLinden xd out]/
John Y. Burgess

John Baxter [? Samuel Baxter xd out]/
John Y. Burgess

John McAlinden Jnr/
John Y. Burgess

George Geddis/
John Y. Burgess

Image 13
Arthur McConaghy
/John Y. Burgess

?  Francis Turkington
/John Y. Burgess

?  Francis Turkington
/John Y. Burgess

Alex Boston
/John Y. Burgess

Image 14
Charles McConaghy/
John Y. Burgess

Vacant [James Surplus xd out]/
Charles McConaghy

Charles McConaghy
/John Y. Burgess

Charles McConaghy
/John Y. Burgess

William Greene?
/John Y. Burgess

Vacant [xd out]
/William Greene xd out

Image 15
Vacant [? Baxter and Samuel Knox xd ou]
/William Greene

Robert McNally [Robert McNally xd out]
/William Greene

Samuel Castles
/William Greene

John McAlinden [V / vac / ? / Nicholas McNally xd out]
/William Greene

George Baxter
/John Y. Burgess

? Francis Turkington
/John Y. Burgess

Francis Burrell
/John Y. Burgess

Image 16
Benjamin Brown [Robert Tracey xd out]
/William Greene

Francis Castles
/William Greene

Francis Burrell
/William Greene

Charles McConaghy
/John Y. Burgess

George Geddis
/John Y. Burgess

Vac [xd out]
/George Geddis xd out

Vac [xd out]
/George Geddis xd out

Image 17
Benjamin Brown  [Mary Hutchinson xd out]/
John Y. Burgess

Moses Brown/
Benjamin Brown

Thomas Surplus Snr/
John Y. Burgess

John Abraham/
John Y. Burgess

John Abraham/
John Y. Burgess

? Gordon [Thomas Gordon xd out]/
John Y. Burgess

Catherine Murray [? James Malcolmson xd out]/
Thomas Gordon xd out

Image 18
Vac [Pat McGeown?? Xd out]/
Thomas Gordon xd out

George Baxter/
John Y. Burgess

Willam Baxter [? / Wm Baxter xd out]/
Willam Baxter

? Turkington  [Robert Berry? Xd out]/
John Y. Burgess

Willam Baxter [James Magee and John Baxter xd out]/
John Y. Burgess

Sophia  Baxter/
Willam Baxter

William John Greene/
John Y. Burgess

Susan Lennon/
John Y. Burgess

Hugh O’Brien [George Greer]/
John Y. Burgess

Patrick? McLinden/
George Greer

Susan Elliott/
Sarah J Donnelly

[aghadowey]

Do you have a query about the Valuation Book? haven't viewed via Ancestry but PRONI images usually very clear and various colours on ink denote year changes were made (most often year is also written on far right of right-hand page. If not dated then there is, in the original books, a key at the front of the book showing the colours/years).

[Jon_ni]

the 1916 relates to one specific dated entry on the page
The book might cover 1908-1920 and an entry read

John Brown Margaret Brown 1910

John Brown was the tenant 1908-1909 and perhaps died. Margaret became occupier on 1910 survey and may be John's widow or an adult daughter or by pure coincidence he moved elsewhere and someone with the same surname moved in. One would look for the death cert and the informant and the 1901 & 11 census.

Ancestry will list John Brown 1908, Margaret Brown 1910. It also lists every lessor and sub leases..

https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles/about-valuation-revision-books
https://www.irish-genealogy-toolkit.com/revision-books.html
A google will bring up further examples https://www.irishfamilyroots.com/post/the-revision-books-at-proni and there are YouTube Videos both by PRONI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO8_QhA4VVo and John Grenham https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs9VAWMTemY

Like any collection Ancestry has errors and omission in their new transcripts of the collection eg Lard Lurgon. Many of the entries are faint and your eyes may be better than theirs + you can spend time examining, they had to just get the indexing done. It is important to understand what you are looking at though and how to use and that a name search on Ancestry may not be the best way to conduct research on successive holders of a farm - you might be better inputting the Townland and date and viewing the images on Ancestry or simply using PRONI in some circumstances. A benefit is the full screen images on Ancestry and the ability to page through them quickly perhaps obtaining the Townland references from PRONI and using them as a keyword eg VAL/12/B/14/10A. And it is an entirely free collection on Ancestry so anyone can try sub or not.

[oldohiohome]

Yes, the Valuation Revision Books are great. Just to add,
here is the start page at Proni, I hope.
https://apps.proni.gov.uk/Val12B/Search.aspx

Type in the townland and select a county if you want. Hit search.
They are broken down by time periods from just after Griffiths into the 20th c.

The books themselves have an index page up front that tells you on which page of the book a specific townland starts. Go by the page numbers of the original book. You can click to go 10 pages forward at a time if your townland is toward the end of the book.

P.S. pay Ancestry no mind on names, dates, transcriptions, etc., unless that is all you can get at. If you have the originals, go by that.

Edit: Spelling of townlands can vary. If you don't find what you are looking for, try something easier to spell that might be in the same book.
 (I had no trouble with Annaloist.)

[Sunnyhill]

Do you have a query about the Valuation Book? haven't viewed via Ancestry but PRONI images usually very clear and various colours on ink denote year changes were made (most often year is also written on far right of right-hand page. If not dated then there is, in the original books, a key at the front of the book showing the colours/years).

Thanks everyone. I didn't have a query reallly but some good info there. More just posted the list as it is good to see all land occupants in the town.  The Ancestry  images are mostly clear [have to look at Proni to compare] but some entries difficult to decipher handwriting due to style and occasional blurring esp when there is crossing out.

[Jon_ni]

The images are PRONI's, Ancestry used theirs and transcribed per their short presentation within PRONI's centenary Youtube this month. Ancestry did not have to send a team to Belfast to scan books, could just upload to their server and let their transcription partners/squad get on with it. The image window on PRONI's search is small but can right click on one of interest and open in a new tab full size.

Bear in mind these are revision books to the 1864 Griffiths printed books (AskaboutIreland, Ancestry, Findmypast) so any specific list you make is a snapshot in time since then in this case a year of VAL/12/B/14/3E (1908-1920) and without the dates for the crossing out of less utility.
Also the Reference to map numbers enable identification of the individual farm and are the primary tie in to the AskaboutIreland maps and previous/sucessive books. Numbering can change eg may be subdivisions, PRONI have many more hand annotated revision survey maps offline but they are much harder to read. PRONI also have larger scale ones for the streets & houses in towns, some of these are available on AskaboutIreland for the Republic only eg Monaghan town & Glaslough.
https://www.billmacafee.com/griffithsrevisions/griffithsrevisionbooks.htm
https://www.billmacafee.com/sourcesvaluationrecords.htm

Annaloist Townland, Parish of Seagoe.
Hugh Hayes was occupier 1908 to 1920 with no changes, and was leasing #1 = Oxford Island but lived elsewhere.
John McLinden was there the entire period of the 3E book also, but with house & land.
Reps of Samuel Baxter [deceased - died 1904, with Will index entry 1905 and change to Reps dated 1906 in previous 3D book] is replaced by son John Baxter 1912 who becomes Reps of John 1916 so had also died [drowned Kinnego 24 Feb 1915; they were only leasing Land in Annaloist - their house was in Kinnego/Kinnegoe].
Wm Cassells is replaced by Mary A Cassells 1913 who is likely his widow. [William Cassells died 13 Jun 1911 aged 76 and Mary 1921 aged 85; both appear 1911 census with 2 spinster daughters & son residing; one would need to look at the next book to see who took over from Mary]

https://apps.proni.gov.uk/DCAL_PRONI_Val12b/Large%20JPeg/IRELBEL1D_026/IRELBEL1D_VAL12B-14-3E/IRELBEL1D_VAL12B-14-3E_M_00008.jpg

https://www.townlands.ie/armagh/oneilland-east/seagoe/brownlows-derry/annaloist/

[Kiltaglassan]

Great explanation, Jon

[William Cassells died 13 Jun 1911 aged 76 and Mary 1921 aged 85; both appear 1911 census with 2 spinster daughters & son residing;

For general information they are Castles on the 1911 census at Annaloist (Brownlows Derry, Armagh).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Brownlows_Derry/Annaloist/334944/

....and here's a general map view of Annaloist townland and its location. It takes in most of Oxford Island Nature Reserve.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5200647#map=12/54.4663/-6.3456

[Jon_ni]

yes and for a quick surname comparison as the Revision Book time period includes 1911 the all occupants summary is useful either by opening from Kiltaglassan's link or via Browse.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Brownlows_Derry/Annaloist/
Surplus vs Serplice is another spelling variation.