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John Cain alias 'Whisky Jack' and Elizabeth Robson Simpson
« on: Monday 17 July 23 19:06 BST (UK) »
My GGGrandparents were John Cain alias 'Whisky Jack' and Elizabeth Robson Simpson (nee Simpson) from Winlaton. I have hit a brick wall concerning their deaths. I know the Newcastle MP, Joseph Cowen , assisted John Cain to relocate to Melbourne around the mid - 1870s in order to support his rheumatism, but from thereupon I have no further knowledge, except that he died in Melbourne, never to return to the UK.

The last record I have for my GGGrandmother is that she was living with her daughter and son in law (Llewellyn Edmund Robinson) at 13, Mary Street, Winlaton, and is listed as Eliza Robson Simpson on the 1891 Census, despite the fact that I have no evidence she ever divorced from Henry Middleton. I have already engaged the services of professional genealogists to no avail, so any support or advice would be so gratefully received, thank you.
McLeod, Fisher, Mico, Oag, Bremner, Gunn,

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Re: John Cain alias 'Whisky Jack' and Elizabeth Robson Simpson
« Reply #1 on: Friday 21 July 23 17:29 BST (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat!
All I have been able to find so far is a document online saying John Cain was acquitted after being found not guilty of murder-Dated 22/7/1856. Do you know when he was born?
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Re: John Cain alias 'Whisky Jack' and Elizabeth Robson Simpson
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 22 July 23 17:47 BST (UK) »
Hi Paco, many thanks for your kind help. The last Census I have for John Cain is 1861 in Cuthbert Street in Blaydon, where he claims he is 48 years old and hails from Mildenhall in Suffolk. There are other Durham prison records before the alleged murder trial.
McLeod, Fisher, Mico, Oag, Bremner, Gunn,

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Re: John Cain alias 'Whisky Jack' and Elizabeth Robson Simpson
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 23 July 23 10:20 BST (UK) »
Genuki has him being born in Norfolk 1797?
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Re: John Cain alias 'Whisky Jack' and Elizabeth Robson Simpson
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 23 July 23 10:53 BST (UK) »
1851 he is in prison 34 born Mildenhall, Suffolk
So that’s consistent


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Re: John Cain alias 'Whisky Jack' and Elizabeth Robson Simpson
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 23 July 23 10:58 BST (UK) »
Nice one :)
stoke on trent. carson,wain,leese,shaw,key,scalley,mitchell,<br />james,<br /> nottingham,pollard,grice,<br />derbyshire,vallands,turton,howe.<br /> new zealand,turton<br /> canada,carson.<br />australia,mitchell,scalley,<br />

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Re: John Cain alias 'Whisky Jack' and Elizabeth Robson Simpson
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 23 July 23 11:00 BST (UK) »
FindMyPast has Suffolk baptism indexes. No images. But there are CANN baptisms. (No John 1810-1820)

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Re: John Cain alias 'Whisky Jack' and Elizabeth Robson Simpson
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 23 July 23 11:08 BST (UK) »
Is he also alias John Black?
Newcastle Courant Feb 22 1839


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John Black, a notorious smuggler and illicit distiller better known as Whisky Jack
Died Hexham Workhouse 1879 age 82   (20 Sept 1879 Kelso Mail)

So, are there two Whisky Jacks in the same area? That’s confusing!!

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The Boston Spa News 26 Sept 1879 says it is John Cain alias Whisky Jack who has died at Hexham workhouse

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Re: John Cain alias 'Whisky Jack' and Elizabeth Robson Simpson
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 23 July 23 11:35 BST (UK) »
But registered as

Deaths Sep 1879   (>99%)
BLACK    John    82    Hexham    10b   159