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Offline Pouch81Uk

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Help me find a ghost?!
« on: Wednesday 19 July 23 08:33 BST (UK) »
Hey all, I wanted to ask for help in finding a lady who would be my grandfathers sister. I do have another post asking about this lady’s mother Jane Lyon’s and that went really well, you guys found out so much info. The daughter of Jane is a ghost after the family left Reading, around 1935/6 and settled back in Newcastle, Dublin.

The daughter is a Margaret M Pouch born in Reading in 1933 (I think) and her father was Edward Pouche.

I do know through speaking to cousins in Ireland Margaret Pouche has passed on leaving a daughter who is believed to be alive and well living in Wales.

I know living relatives aren’t to be searched within these pages so I would really like to track any info about Margaret (Peggy) so I can hopefully find her daughter, my Dads cousin.

If anyone can help in this I would be very grateful.

If any further info is needed? Please let me know.

Cheers

Ty

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Re: Help me find a ghost?!
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 19 July 23 08:53 BST (UK) »
Your birth is spot on
Births Sep 1933 
POUCHE    Margaret M    Lyons    Reading    2c   

You may struggle to get such recent Irish records from https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/ [births 1864 - 1947, marriages 1864 - 1947, deaths 1871 - 1972 but I'll have a look at newspapers.

ADDED: FYI thread on Jane Lyons https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=873515.0. I so far can only find the 2 newspaper references found in reply #4 on that thread.
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Help me find a ghost?!
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 19 July 23 09:14 BST (UK) »
A 25th anniversary notice Jan 18 1990 for a Margaret Pouch Newcastle Dublin, placed by a daughter.

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Re: Help me find a ghost?!
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 19 July 23 09:15 BST (UK) »
Would she still be Margaret Pouch if married with a daughter? 25 yrs in 1990 would mean a 1965 marriage.
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON


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Re: Help me find a ghost?!
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 19 July 23 09:20 BST (UK) »
Don’t see a death in 1965 for Margaret just Edward.

I did wonder about the surname as well.

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Re: Help me find a ghost?!
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 19 July 23 09:28 BST (UK) »
There is a Mary (Mollie) in Newcastle, Coogan nee Punch in Dec 1991 but she had sons and daughters.

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Re: Help me find a ghost?!
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 19 July 23 09:33 BST (UK) »
Hey guys, thanks for the replies.

I was told Margaret Pouche was married in Ireland. So a Margaret in 1990 would more than likely be married to one of the many Pouch men living in and around Dublin.

But I wonder if said daughter used her mams maiden name so family and friends from her younger years would know the name? Or had Margaret divorced by 1990? This is info I haven’t heard or been told, if the case?

Thanks for the updates this far.

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Re: Help me find a ghost?!
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 19 July 23 09:34 BST (UK) »
Mollie was my Grandfathers Aunt….😁


There is a Mary (Mollie) in Newcastle, Coogan nee Punch in Dec 1991 but she had sons and daughters.

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Re: Help me find a ghost?!
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 19 July 23 10:02 BST (UK) »
So you’re looking for Margaret Unknown nee Pouch who died sometime in Ireland and has a daughter.

Unless the nee is on her death notice, which it often isn’t I can’t see how we can find her without knowing her married name.

Any clues on her marriage?