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Pharaoh Smith
« on: Wednesday 19 July 23 11:08 BST (UK) »
Looking for any information regarding a Pharaoh Smith and his wife Mary, only clue I have is that his daughter Elizabeth born circa 1780 in Birmingham was married on the 20 or 9th March at St Peter and St Paul in Aston to an Abraham Allen, in the presence of Pharaoh Smith and a Mary Smith which I have presumed were her parents or maybe another member of her family, any assistance appreciated..

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Re: Pharaoh Smith
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 19 July 23 12:38 BST (UK) »
May I ask how you got a 1780 year of birth for Elizabeth?

She married 1819 so would have been 39 if born 1780.

Do you have her 1851 with dob/pob?

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Re: Pharaoh Smith
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 19 July 23 12:55 BST (UK) »
Seconding Trish and asking where you got the estimated birth year and location?

There is a burial for a Pharroh [sic] Smith in Birmingham in 1827, estimated year of birth is 1776. Only matching Pharaoh I can see was baptised 1776 in Wednesbury, Staffordshire to Joseph & Elizabeth Smith  :-\

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Hamlin/Hamlyn - Long Sutton & Martock, Somerset
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Minson - Kingstone, Somerset/Symondsbury, Dorset
Owsley - Buckland St Mary, Somerset
Pyke - (West) Weeke/Wick, Pewsey, Wiltshire
Salisbury - Dowlish Wake/West Dowlish, Somerset

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Re: Pharaoh Smith
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 19 July 23 13:00 BST (UK) »
And one bapt 03 Mar 1776 Wednesbury, Staffordshire to JOSEPH/ELIZABETH

He possibly married Eleanor BENTLEY 20 Nov 1797 West Bromwich, Staffs
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Re: Pharaoh Smith
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 19 July 23 13:04 BST (UK) »
If I have the right Elizabeth Allen 1851 she is born c 1796 Tipton, Staffs.
Living in Birmingham, widowed, a Green Grocer

Bapt;
26 Jan 1800 St Martin, Tipton
Birth 08 Jan 1799
ELIZABETH Smith daug of PHARAOH/ELEANOR

All I have posted on FreeREG

On bapt of Son GEORGE 1813 Pharaoh is a Auger Maker

EDIT they also bapt a MARY 15 Feb 1803

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Re: Pharaoh Smith
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 19 July 23 13:23 BST (UK) »
1841 Census
Elizabeth Allen 35 Green Grocer
John Allen 20 Green Grocer
Abraham Allen 15
Leah Allen 20

Elizabeth NOT born in County all others are.

FreeBMD has a March 1841 Death Reg Birmingham for Abraham ALLIN

Cant find GRO ref for this to see age
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Re: Pharaoh Smith
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 19 July 23 14:32 BST (UK) »
Great research, Trish.

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Re: Pharaoh Smith
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 19 July 23 16:40 BST (UK) »
Here it is Trish  :)
ALLIN, ABRAHAM       age 40 
GRO Reference: 1841  March Quarter in BIRMINGHAM  Volume 16  Page 210


 
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Re: Pharaoh Smith
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 20 July 23 10:02 BST (UK) »
Don't know how I missed that Rosie ;D

Thanks Queenie :)

WOW New Zealand have just beat Norway in FIFA World Cup opening match ;D ;D ;D
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