More of the West/Condon family

[Bunnygirl]

Hi Everyone,
Still in a muddle with the West/Condon family and now have certificates to further my records
Henry  George West born 29 Jan 1855 at 3 Wood St. Chelsea.(I have his birth cert)  He marries Catherine Condon 24 Aug 1878 at Kensington both say they are 21yrs old Catherine says her father is William Condon a labourer (I have Catherine's father as Patrick Condon !!! I also have this cert) Henry George West dies 25 May 1886 at Brompton Hospital cert says he's a horse keeper from 18 O(c)akham Street, Chelsea.
They have possibly 3 daughters
Caroline West b 31 May 1879 11 Caroline Place, Chelsea. Her Aunt Bridget registered her. (Bridget Hill is Catherine's sister) I have birth cert.
Dora(h) West Cannot find GRO reference for her birth but have her dead cert  died 11 Jan 1883 at Chapel Cottage, Bulls Gardens, Chelsea .
I think there is a daughter Mary West as her names shows on 1901 census with her mother at 18 Pond Terrace Chelsea. cannot find her GRO reference.
Catherine then marries James Margrethe 22 Oct  1888 at The Sorrowful Hearts of Jesus Kensington and on this cert says her father is Patrick Condon
James McGrath dies July 1898 I have cert. Catherine in 1901 is down as Kate McGrath with children
Caroline West age 21
Mary West age 19
Ellen McGrath age 11
Anthony McGrath age 3
all living at 18 Pond Terrace Chelsea.
1911 Census under the name Catherine West states she had 12 children 6 still alive & 6 dead

Would appreciate any help with finding GRO birth references for her children

Thanks
Bunnygirl

[CaroleW]

Birth on freebmd - Mary West  June qtr 1879 St Saviour 1D 20 per GRO online mmn Condon

Use https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp to find McGrath births with mmn Condon

[Bunnygirl]

Hi CaroleW
Thanks for your reply. I think this Mary West is daughter of John & Catherine West. I am waiting for the certificate to come from GRO.
It appears that Catherine had children by James  McGrath. I think there is a Margaret, Ellen & Anthony.
Margaret McGrath is mentioned on Catherine McGrath's death certificate as her daughter. I can't  find GRO birth references for any of these children.

Thanks again
Bunnygirl

[Mabel Bagshawe]

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[Bunnygirl]

Birth cert for Mary West 1879, St Saviour, confirms father John West & mother Catherine West nee Condon .
I have been thinking about Dora West b 1882 perhaps they didn't get round to register the  birth as she died 3 weeks old (found dead in bed)


Bunnygirl

[heywood]

Sorry - just seeking information

1881 86/39/25 - living with the Condon family

Harry West 24 yrs
Kate West 21 yrs

Where is Caroline? Has she been found?

Hi CaroleW
Thanks for your reply. I think this Mary West is daughter of John & Catherine West. I am waiting for the certificate to come from GRO.
It appears that Catherine had children by James  McGrath. I think there is a Margaret, Ellen & Anthony.
Margaret McGrath is mentioned on Catherine McGrath's death certificate as her daughter. I can't  find GRO birth references for any of these children.

Thanks again
Bunnygirl

Who is Margaret? Have you found her anywhere?

[Bunnygirl]

The first census record I have for Caroline West is 1901 living with her mother

Bunnygirl

[heywood]

Do you have these entries?
Workhouse records 1887 Kensington and Chelsea
Caroline West 8 yrs
Henry West 6 yrs
Parent Catherine West, 10 Oakham Street
Possibly To St Joseph’s Orphange?

1894
Caroline West 15 yrs Stepfather John McGrath 5 Exeter Place - mother also mentioned at the same address on a separate Admission

1897
Caroline West 18yrs imbecile? Mother Mrs McGrath 18 Pond Terrace

[heywood]

221 Pension Records Military Record - 1895 Rifle Brigade
Henry West b Chelsea  no 4335
Age: 18 yrs 6 months in 1895
Mother -Mary McGrath, Pond Terrace

Marriage 1904 The Oratory, Brompton, Kensington
Spouse Mary Ward