John Joseph Taylor April 1871

[Meggiejayne]

Afternoon

I'm now researching my dad's side of the family and in particular the half-siblings of my great great grandad.

At the moment I'm looking at John Joseph Taylor and have found a birth registration of April 1871, born Whaplode. There is another JJ Taylor born Whaplode but he seems to have a birth date of later.

I have found John in 1881 and 1891 still living with his parents, firstly in Whaplode and later moving to Sutton St Mary (Sutton Bridge as is now).

On Family Search Ive found a Census return for a John Taylor in Elstead, Surrey, with a birth year of 1872 (with a birth date of April its quite possible it could be him). However I cannot find the particular census returns on Ancestry to see what information is on here to see whether this could possibly be him.

Is anyone able to access this return to see what the occupation of John is and whether he is married and who too, etc?

Thank you

[rosie99]

He is single and living alone age 29 occ Road Foreman place of birth N.K. Whaplode
RG13
Piece  617
Folio 121
Page 2

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01sir/

[Meggiejayne]

He is single and living alone age 29 occ Road Foreman place of birth N.K. Whaplode
RG13
Piece  617
Folio 121
Page 2

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01sir/

Thank you - place of birth and age fit so that could possibly be him. Had hoped he'd married because at least that might have given me something else.

John and Taylor are far too common so its a bit of a minefield.

Just trying to see if I can find him in 1911. I have found a John Taylor from Whaplode in Portsmouth but he is 35 so not sure as that age is 4 years out. So I'm not sure.

[rosie99]

Is this the family in 1891

Joseph Taylor   44   bn    Holbeach, Lincolnshire
Ellen      34   bn    Whaplode Drove
John Joseph    19   bn Whaplode Drove, Lincolnshire
William Hy      11   bn Whaplode Drove, Lincolnshire
Rose         7   bn Whaplode Drove, Lincolnshire
Hannah      5   bn   Sutton Bridge, Lincolnshire
Alice      1   bn   Sutton Bridge, Lincolnshire
.....
Children from 1881 census
TAYLOR, MARY  ANN     mmn CARR 
GRO Reference: 1869  S Quarter in HOLBEACH  Volume 07A  Page 367

TAYLOR, REBECCA    mmn   CARR 
GRO Reference: 1873  D Quarter in HOLBEACH  Volume 07A  Page 393

TAYLOR, WILLIAM  HENRY     mmn CARR
GRO Reference: 1880  M Quarter in HOLBEACH  Volume 07A  Page 422
   
From 1891 posted above
TAYLOR, ALICE       mmn CARR 
GRO Reference: 1889  Sept Quarter in HOLBEACH  Volume 07A  Page 386

[Meggiejayne]

Is this the family in 1891

Joseph Taylor   44   bn    Holbeach, Lincolnshire
Ellen      34   bn    Whaplode Drove
John Joseph    19   bn Whaplode Drove, Lincolnshire
William Hy      11   bn Whaplode Drove, Lincolnshire
Rose         7   bn Whaplode Drove, Lincolnshire
Hannah      5   bn   Sutton Bridge, Lincolnshire
Alice      1   bn   Sutton Bridge, Lincolnshire
.....
Children from 1881 census
TAYLOR, MARY  ANN     mmn CARR 
GRO Reference: 1869  S Quarter in HOLBEACH  Volume 07A  Page 367

TAYLOR, REBECCA    mmn   CARR 
GRO Reference: 1873  D Quarter in HOLBEACH  Volume 07A  Page 393

TAYLOR, WILLIAM  HENRY     mmn CARR
GRO Reference: 1880  M Quarter in HOLBEACH  Volume 07A  Page 422
   
From 1891 posted above
TAYLOR, ALICE       mmn CARR 
GRO Reference: 1889  Sept Quarter in HOLBEACH  Volume 07A  Page 386

Yes thats the family in 1891.

There's 8 children altogether...I think Joseph has 7 children with 1 sister and 1 with the other sister  (who are also his step sisters as his father marries their mother after the death of his first wife). Joseph then goes onto marry my great great grandma and has a further 4 children.

[rosie99]

Marriage Sep qtr 1879 
Carr    Ellen       
TAYLOR    Joseph       
Holbeach    7a   559

These birth registrations don't match with the Clark Taylor / Carr children

TAYLOR, JOHN  JOSEPH     mmn CLARK 
GRO Reference: 1871  June Quarter in HOLBEACH  Volume 07A  Page 380

TAYLOR, JOHN  JOSEPH     - 
GRO Reference: 1873  Dec Quarter in HOLBEACH  Volume 07A  Page 395
 

[Meggiejayne]

Marriage Sep qtr 1879 
Carr    Ellen       
TAYLOR    Joseph       
Holbeach    7a   559

These birth registrations don't match with the Clark / Carr children

TAYLOR, JOHN  JOSEPH     mmn CLARK 
GRO Reference: 1871  June Quarter in HOLBEACH  Volume 07A  Page 380

TAYLOR, JOHN  JOSEPH     - 
GRO Reference: 1873  Dec Quarter in HOLBEACH  Volume 07A  Page 395

Okay thank you. Well if his age is correct them from Census returns we know he's born 1871/1872 or there abouts. Trouble with there being a few of them its hard to pinpoint, without the actual certificates which one is his. Downside of a surname like Taylor 

[rosie99]

As you apparently know who his mother is then you should be able to locate the correct birth registration on the GRO index

ADDED
I wonder if the maiden name of Mary Ann is wrongly transcribed on this certificate.TAYLOR, JOHN  JOSEPH     mmn CLARK
GRO Reference: 1871  June Quarter in HOLBEACH  Volume 07A  Page 380

You can purchase a digital image of it for £2.50 on the GRO website

[Meggiejayne]

As you apparently know who his mother is then you should be able to locate the correct birth registration on the GRO index

ADDED
I wonder if the maiden name of Mary Ann is wrongly transcribed on this certificate.TAYLOR, JOHN  JOSEPH     mmn CLARK
GRO Reference: 1871  June Quarter in HOLBEACH  Volume 07A  Page 380

You can purchase a digital image of it for £2.50 on the GRO website

Its possible. I have a birth month of April 1871 although not entirely sure where I got that information from.