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Interpreting this record about Charles Grayton 1811
« on: Saturday 22 July 23 18:37 BST (UK) »
I'm looking at a Baptism record for Charles Grayton, who born on 12th June 1811 and baptised 16th June 1811, in Snaith.

It says 'Charles Grayton, son of Robert Grayton waterman of Carlton, son of William Grayton by Lydia his wife.'

Do you interpret that to mean that Charles Grayton, is the grandson of William Grayton and Lydia?

Or that Charles Grayton is the son of Robert Grayton and Lydia?

I thought that Robert Grayton had married a Mary Clarkson on 26th November 1799, and that they had at least two children, Charles Grayton born 1811 and Mary Grayton born 1818.

A baptism record for Mary Grayton says Mary was baptised on Jun 14th 1818 and that she was the daughter of Robert Grayton, waterman, Carlton and Mary Clarkson.

So to me that seems pretty conclusive that Mary was Robert's wife. And that Lydia is Robert's mother and Charles's grandmother?

It's just a really odd format for me and not one that I've ever seen before, so it through me off.

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Re: Interpreting this record about Charles Grayton 1811
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 22 July 23 22:58 BST (UK) »
Probably a Dade register which has quite a lot of detail.

Your Charles Grayton is the son of Robert a waterman of Carlton

and Robert is the son of William Grayton and Lydia.
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Re: Interpreting this record about Charles Grayton 1811
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 22 July 23 23:22 BST (UK) »
Or that Charles Grayton is the son of Robert Grayton and Lydia?

Yes. My interpretation is that Charles is the son of Robert and Lydia. Robert's father is William.

While it may be ambiguously written, it is most unlikely that Charles' grandmother would be listed but not his mother.


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Re: Interpreting this record about Charles Grayton 1811
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 22 July 23 23:28 BST (UK) »
Your Charles Grayton is the son of Robert a waterman of Carlton

and Robert is the son of William Grayton and Lydia.

Yes, I agree with this.
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Re: Interpreting this record about Charles Grayton 1811
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 22 July 23 23:44 BST (UK) »
Thank you everybody. I appreciate the help.
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Re: Interpreting this record about Charles Grayton 1811
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 23 July 23 07:43 BST (UK) »
The image on FindMyPast is a typical Dade-type register -

Charles Grayton son of Robert Grayton Waterman of Carlton, son of William Grayton by Lydia his wife.  (Mother) Mary daughter of Robert Clarkson by Hannah his wife.
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Re: Interpreting this record about Charles Grayton 1811
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 23 July 23 11:21 BST (UK) »
Thank you BumbleB for posting details from the image. So it appears that the OP did not quote the full record, which is spread across two pages. Hence the confusion.

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Re: Interpreting this record about Charles Grayton 1811
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 23 July 23 12:34 BST (UK) »
Sorry Bumble B, for some reason I don't get the second page on my link, so I wasn't aware of that.
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Re: Interpreting this record about Charles Grayton 1811
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 23 July 23 12:53 BST (UK) »
No problem at all.  Dade registers are SO useful - 14 parishes in Yorkshire Ainsty, 23 in York, 46 in ER, 33 in NR and 42 in WR.  Plus 3 in Cheshire, 8 in Nottinghamshire and 1 in Surrey.
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