Ethel M. Hallewell born 12 Jan 1911
I think this is her birth
KNOWLES, Ethel Mary. mother’s maiden name, GRIMSHAW
GRO ref 1911 Mch Qtr, Blackburn, Vol 08E, page 369
(born Lower Darwen)
Older sister, Caroline Mabel born Rishton, Lancashire
her birth
KNOWLES, Caroline Mabel. mmn GRIMSHAW
GRO ref 1906, S.Qtr, Blackburn, vol 08E, page 330
parents Thomas born abt 1875, Rishton, Lancashire
Eliza born abt 1879 Oswaldtwistle, Lamcashire
Likely marriage for Thomas KNOWLES & Eliza GRIMSHAW Dec qtr 899, Blackburn vol 8e page 773
here they are in 1911. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X4M1-7HT
they have had 3 other children die.
The two girls seem to be the only surviving children there were.
Ethel is Ethel M KNOWLES at marriage to Reginald in 1938. (at least that is what is in the indexes)
There is a probate notice for
Ethel Mary HALLEWELL of 41 Beaks Hill rd, Kings Norton, Birmingham, died 21 July 1968
Wills are here
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/
age 57. That fits with the birth of 1911
in 1950 electoral roll Ethel M and Reginald S are at Brook Lane, Hall Green, Birmingham
There are two births showing on Free BMD that would fit. I cannot name as may still be alive but you can see for yourself. http://www.freebmd.org.uk/
Caroline Mabel married Harold TAYLOR in 1931
in 1939 they are with Thomas & Eliza KNOWLES and there is a redacted entry, so a possible child
Lots of TAYLOR/KNOWLES combinations on Freebmd.
Caroline Mabel TAYLOR of 57 Roegreave Rd, Oswaldtwistle died 4 August 1992 -
Registration of death confirms birth date of 29 August 1906
Accrington Observer & Times 07 August 1992
TAYLOR - on Tuesday 4 August 1992, peacefully in hospital Caroline Mabel TAYLOR age 85 years of Roegreave Road, Oswaldtwistle the beloved wife of the late Harold TAYLOR, much loved mother of P… and J…….** Dear mother in law of C….. and J…… and a much loved grannie of A…. S…. & R…….
Address of P. is in the notice
** I think this must be the J you refer to in your last post.
This confuses as my mum Patricia Booth Midland cottages Rushton Nr Kettering Northamptonshire.
You seem to report Mabel funeral says her daughters are P and J . Wondr if Mabel is real mum of pat as dad calls. and either Joyce or Jufith. Pls csn yiy trll me or confrm at personal mesage?
I thought Judiths child is Andrew or mayb tjat was jusband. lived in Derby til in a csre home in Wolverhampton or maybe Warrington. .meed ask dsd
Also i cant get grandma Ethel Hallewell on Probate. Are Hallewells but not Birmingham. But i saw her with brum braks hill addess before at £7000. please can yuy advice the figute or paste entry?
I saw a London area in probate Ethel Knowles i think. fited het death date. got note somrw
This family destruction means mim didnt gey anu og a will or inheritance if existed. Joyce tripped back forth with Rrg and ethel. mum woukd not say yrs to her dad reg as pregnant with steve. she was 19.
its a beggar to solve where all pharmay wealth i gind hard to believe wasnt made went to. Joyce and family lived in a masdive.mansion in Australia .
Do Fairbridge pursue repayments from ex children forever? dusturbing but i read this in their minutes.1930 ish.
Thankyou. wish wasnt struggling with other isdues of law i cant find help for. tgen coukd concemyrate and tupe proper.