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Re: Mona St Clair Springett marriage record
« Reply #18 on: Monday 31 July 23 16:13 BST (UK) »

So on the 1950  census he states he's a widow, however Alma Mason nee Laing married Charles W Stobbs in 1920.

It was the daughter Mona who married Charles James Stobbs.  Alma was the mother of Mona.

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Re: Mona St Clair Springett marriage record
« Reply #19 on: Monday 31 July 23 16:26 BST (UK) »
Just to point out, how mixed up these documents can be...here is an example.

Alma Lang seems to be Alma Langwell on the 1881 Canadian Census living in Shelburne Nova Scotia - the parents names James and Margaret almost match those given in the left hand column of her marriage to Harry William Springett.  However, note that the name on the main part of the document on the marriage of Alma is Alma Wilkins Maison - aged 32 years - widow - parents - William Janes Laing Margaret Ann Cocken.

Yet again in the main part of the marriage document it says her father was Daniel Laing and mother Margaret Cochrane.


James Langwell 45
Margaret Langwell 31
William Langwell 14
Jessie Langwell 12
Frederick Langwell 9
Eva Langwell 7
John Langwell 5
Alma Langwell   1 born 1880
Mary A Cockar 74 widowed. born 1907.

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« Reply #20 on: Monday 31 July 23 16:29 BST (UK) »


1891 census Shelburne, Shelburne, Nova Scotia.

Margaret Langwell 41 Head. Widowed.
William Langwell 23 Son
Frederick Langwell 19 Son
John Langwell 15 Son
Jessie Langwell 17 Daughter
Alma Langwell   11   Daughter
Ann Cocane 80 Lodger. born 1811. widowed.

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« Reply #21 on: Monday 31 July 23 16:31 BST (UK) »


1901 Shelburne and Queens (Shelburne).

Margaret Lang 51 Head. Retired.
Alma Lang   20   Daughter

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« Reply #22 on: Monday 31 July 23 16:43 BST (UK) »


1911 census Shelburne and Queens Nova Scotia

Mrs. Margaret Lang 61 Head
Alma Mason   28   Daughter

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Re: Mona St Clair Springett marriage record
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 01 August 23 00:00 BST (UK) »

So on the 1950  census he states he's a widow, however Alma Mason nee Laing married Charles W Stobbs in 1920.

It was the daughter Mona who married Charles James Stobbs.  Alma was the mother of Mona.

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Sorry , I should have said he states he's a widow , but Alma Mason nee Laing  married Harry William Springett in 1921.

According to Mona's marriage record Eleanor (not Alma) Laing was her mother.
Elliot(t), Stobbs,Thompson (Weardale) Johnson, Hunter, Hall (Kirk Merrington/Spennymoor)

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Re: Mona St Clair Springett marriage record
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 01 August 23 10:50 BST (UK) »
Thank you.

Unless there is a marriage record for Jack Mason to Eleanor Laing, someone probably wrote or heard the wrong name. Have you seen an actual marriage record showing those names ?
If you have can you give a link or post a copy please.

There is already a discrepancy over the fathers name on Alma's marriage document !!

The maiden name of the mother of Alma was wrong on her death certificate, should be Margaret and they put May Laing !!!
 
The mother in law details were put on the death certificate for Mona when it asks for the maiden name of her mother !!

I wonder if John and Alma ever got divorced. It was so expensive then, sometimes people didn't bother  :-\
Someone else probably filled in the information on the 1940/50 census forms !!

Other petitions, declarations etc say John Mason was not married which seems correct.

The family of Harry William Springett don't even mention Alma as his wife in his obituary, they only mention the late Isabella !! Strange !!

So as I said before, "Never believe everything you read on census or other documents,  the information is only as good as the informants knowledge or who fills that information in"
 

 


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Re: Mona St Clair Springett marriage record
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 01 August 23 21:55 BST (UK) »
Thank you.

Unless there is a marriage record for Jack Mason to Eleanor Laing, someone probably wrote or heard the wrong name. Have you seen an actual marriage record showing those names ?
If you have can you give a link or post a copy please.

There is already a discrepancy over the fathers name on Alma's marriage document !!

The maiden name of the mother of Alma was wrong on her death certificate, should be Margaret and they put May Laing !!!
 
The mother in law details were put on the death certificate for Mona when it asks for the maiden name of her mother !!

I wonder if John and Alma ever got divorced. It was so expensive then, sometimes people didn't bother  :-\
Someone else probably filled in the information on the 1940/50 census forms !!

Other petitions, declarations etc say John Mason was not married which seems correct.

The family of Harry William Springett don't even mention Alma as his wife in his obituary, they only mention the late Isabella !! Strange !!

So as I said before, "Never believe everything you read on census or other documents,  the information is only as good as the informants knowledge or who fills that information in"
 

 


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Thank you.
Yes, I noticed they didn't mention Alma.
I found a newspaper obituary for Bella Springett and it seems she died from self inflicted throat injuries😔

Ancestry brought up this in hints.
I can't find the record on FamilySearch even though it appears they have Ontario ,Canada
marriages indexed  for that period.
Elliot(t), Stobbs,Thompson (Weardale) Johnson, Hunter, Hall (Kirk Merrington/Spennymoor)

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Re: Mona St Clair Springett marriage record
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 01 August 23 22:19 BST (UK) »

Sadly that link only shows the marriage certificate of Mona St Clair Springett to Charles James Stobbs  Jack Mason and Eleanor Laing were listed as her parents on that.  Same as partial copy in reply 1

The death of Bella was a sad one  :'(

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