Margaret Dunn who are the real parents ?

[SOFEE]

can someone please help me find out who my real 2xgreat grandparents are?

My great Grandmother Margaret Dunn Born abt 1849 Ireland was marred twice.

 1st marriage age 21yrs (11/02/1870) to Thomas Sergeant : parents were : Edward Dunn (land steward) & Mary Ann Dunn m.s Fay

 2nd marriage age 24yrs (28/07/1876) to Robert Hood her parents were ; John Dunne (land steward) & Margaret Dunne .m.s Elliot

on her death certificate parents are John Dunne Land steward & Margaret Dunne m.s Elliot

I also have an extract from census return of 1851 (cen S/22/4) I dont know if this was needed for her pension or something ? its dated 8/10/1920 Parents are listed as Edward Dunn & Mary Ann Fay and the address of the "applicant" is my great grandmothers in Glasgow. theres lots of wee scribbled notes on it too

I also noticed although there was 6 years between those marriages my great grandmother only aged by 3yrs   

I would be most grateful if someone could help solve this riddle please

sofee

[Sinann]

The wee scribbled notes maybe important.
http://censussearchforms.nationalarchives.ie/reels/c19/007246697/007246697_00153.pdf
Trying to make sense of it, I think
The address A. in Wexford was uninhabited in 1851, the second address B. is not found but they have found a family in County Meath as a possible but the father there was a gardener.

So it appears they can not find the information that Margaret is suppling to support her claim.

It appears she give Fay as her mother's maiden name, also the date of marriage for her parents as 1832.

How do you the second marriage to Robin Hood is the same Margaret? Silly question that's her name on the application.

[gaffy]

A good bit north, but the NLI RC parish records website shows an Edward Dunn - Maryanne Fay marriage on 26 November 1832, under Booterstown:

https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633702#page/19/mode/1up (right page, near top, witnesses Thomas Kinsela and Anne Donohoe)

[gaffy]

Again Booterstown, a daughter Mary Ann baptised on 1st of Jan 1837:

https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633704#page/86/mode/1up (left page, 2nd entry down)

Mary Ann of Edward Dunne and Mary Ann Fay Sps. Thomas Cullen & Jane Cullen

The names are hardly unique, so I suppose it could be a coincidence... so just to note for now. 

[Sinann]

Trouble with land stewards is they often moved around.

Does either marriage say if the father was still alive?

[SOFEE]

Hi Sinann & Gaffy
thanks for taking the time to try and help me.

re the marriage record  the marriage  of Edward Dunn and Mary Ann Fay thanks for that

I thought the wee scribbles etc could be of use thats on the census extract but I've not been able to fathom what they mean...

I wasn't sure if I could post the record on here or not? i did notice on the census extract where it said relationship and  occupation it said gardener/ ? winter

As for her second Marriage Yes I'm 99% sure its the same Margaret Dunn formally Sergeant, Widow

 her death record says
Margaret Hood window of
1st Thomas Sergeant, 
2nd Robert Hood
I'm just confused as to who her parents are???

thanks
sofee

[Kiltaglassan]

i did notice on the census extract where it said relationship and  occupation it said gardener/ ? winter

Looks like it says 'gardener for Dr Winter'

[SOFEE]

 Sorry Sinann
 you asked if parents deceased on
1st marriage its quite hard to read  says Edward Dunn  dec? & Mary Ann Fay (deceased)

2nd John Dunne & Margaret Dunne m.s Elliot (deceased)

im not sure exactly what is after Edwards name its a squiggle looks like dec for deceased but not to sure

Sofee

[scotmum]

With mention of Winter, Meath and gardening:

https://theirishaesthete.com/2016/02/

Agher house was probably a candidate to have had need of land stewards and gardeners. In an earlier timescale, it was associated with a Dr Winter and in early 1800s, others of the Winter name were still linked with it.