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Doleman in Sedgley
« on: Thursday 03 August 23 22:24 BST (UK) »
Hi everyone, I've found some relatives from Sedgley recently and have found a few things but wondered if anyone could help with more. I've found 2 census records:

1841 Census
Address: 24 Batman’s Hill, Sedgley
Name: Frederick Doleman      Age: 40 years      Born: Sedgley
Household Position:    Head      Occupation: Boatman
Name: Sarah Doleman      Age: 35 years      Born: Sedgley
Household Position: Wife      Occupation: N/A
Name: Mary Doleman      Age: 12 years      Born: Sedgley
Household Position:    Daughter   Occupation: N/A
Name: Hannah Doleman      Age: 10 years      Born: Sedgley
Household Position:    Daughter   Occupation: N/A
Name: Charlotte Doleman      Age: 7 years      Born: Sedgley
Household Position:    Daughter   Occupation: N/A
Name: Frederick Doleman      Age: 5 years      Born: Sedgley
Household Position:    Son      Occupation: N/A
Name: Jane Doleman         Age: 3 years      Born: Sedgley
Household Position:    Son      Occupation: N/A

1851 Census
Address: 24 Batman’s Hill, Sedgley
Name: Frederick Doleman      Age: 43 years      Born: Bilston, Staffordshire
Household Position:    Head      Occupation: Labourer
Name: Sarah Doleman      Age: 46 years      Born: Sedgley, Staffordshire
Household Position: Wife      Occupation: N/A
Name: Mary Doleman      Age: 26 years      Born: Sedgley, Staffordshire
Household Position:    Daughter   Occupation: Cripple
Name: Hannah Doleman      Age: 18 years      Born: Sedgley, Staffordshire
Household Position:    Daughter   Occupation: Errand Girl
Name: Charlotte Doleman      Age: 16 years      Born: Sedgley, Staffordshire
Household Position:    Daughter   Occupation: Errand Girl
Name: Frederick Doleman      Age: 14 years      Born: Sedgley, Staffordshire
Household Position:    Son      Occupation: Labourer
Name: Samuel Doleman      Age: 12 years      Born: Sedgley, Staffordshire
Household Position:    Son      Occupation: Labourer
Name: Sarah Doleman      Age: 8 years      Born: Sedgley, Staffordshire
Household Position:    Daughter   Occupation: Scholar

I am a direct descendant of Charlotte, who married 3 times.

If anyone could provide anything further on any of the Doleman family that would be wonderful - even information of the address, which I cannot find on maps; I have nothing on anyone except Charlotte.

Thanks, Luke

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Re: Doleman in Sedgley
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 03 August 23 23:16 BST (UK) »
Copying & pasting makes reading difficult - simplified version below

Did you view the original 1841 image?    You haven't included Samuel when copy/pasting 

1841 Census all b Sedgely
Address: 24 Batman’s Hill, Sedgley
Frederick Doleman  40   Boatman
Sarah       35   
Mary      12       
Hannah     10
Charlotte 7
Frederick 5
Jane  3
Samuel 1

1851 Census
Address: 24 Batman’s Hill, Sedgley All b Sedgeley except Frederick
Frederick Doleman  43  Bilston Labourer
Sarah 46
Mary 26 years   Cripple
Hannah 18 Errand Girl
Charlotte 16 years     Errand Girl
Frederick 14 Labourer
Samuel 12 Labourer
Sarah  8

Where is Jane in 1851?

Have you used freebmd to look for marriages then followed them through on later censuses?

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Re: Doleman in Sedgley
« Reply #2 on: Friday 04 August 23 09:06 BST (UK) »
Publication date 21 Dec 1843
Publication title Berrow's Worcester Journal

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Re: Doleman in Sedgley
« Reply #3 on: Friday 04 August 23 09:20 BST (UK) »
Jane is a Servant in 1851 Census.

FreeREG has bapts Sedgley;

MARY 19 Jun 1825
JOSEPH 25 Feb 1827
JANE 04 May 1828 buried 06 Sep 1829 age 2
AMBROSE 04 Apr 1830 buried 23 Oct 1831 age 2
FREDERIC 12 Apr 1835
SAMUEL 04 Aug 1839

Then at Coseley;
HANNAH 12 Jun 1831
CHARLOTTE 20 Jan 1833***
JANE 24 Sep 1837
ABRAHAM 20 Dec 1843, abode Batmans Hill
ISAAC 20 Dec 1843
JACOB  20 Dec 1843 All born 20 Dec, Triplets

All above on FreeREG, using soundex option for Doleman, Parents FREDERICK/SARAH

GRO;
DOMAN, ISAAC mmn    HUGHES 
GRO Reference: 1844  M Quarter in DUDLEY UNION  Volume 18  Page 330

Poor babies all passed away;
DOLMAN, ABRAHAM       0 
GRO Reference: 1844  J Quarter in DUDLEY UNION  Volume 18  Page 220
DOMAN, ISAAC       0 
GRO Reference: 1844  D Quarter in DUDLEY UNION  Volume 18  Page 256
DOMAN, JACOB       0 
GRO Reference: 1844  M Quarter in DUDLEY UNION  Volume 18  Page 270

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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)


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Re: Doleman in Sedgley
« Reply #4 on: Friday 04 August 23 09:21 BST (UK) »
Sadly all passed away.
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: Doleman in Sedgley
« Reply #5 on: Friday 04 August 23 09:25 BST (UK) »
A Tree has Sarah as nee Smith but definitely nee Hughes

Marriage;
07 Nov 1824 St Thomas, Dudley
Frederick DOMAN to Sarah HUGHES
Bachelor/Spinster
Witnesses William COOPER/Jane HUGHES
By Banns-Bride Groom & witness 2 marked X witness 1 signed
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: Doleman in Sedgley
« Reply #6 on: Friday 04 August 23 09:37 BST (UK) »
HANNAH Doleman married  John ROBERTS 3 Nov 1851

I guess Charlotte married George ROE 16 May 1853?
Hannah Roberts was a witness

JANE Dolman age 19 married John EVANS 24 Dec 1855

All these marriage have Father as Frederick

All on FreeREG   

Also look at these marriages;
FREDERICK Dolman 12 Feb 1866
SAMUEL Doleman 09 Mar 1868
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: Doleman in Sedgley
« Reply #7 on: Friday 04 August 23 10:48 BST (UK) »
Gosh poor Charlotte was unlucky with her 1st 2 Husbands dying young.
(Found the Marriages on FreeREG)
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: Doleman in Sedgley
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 09 August 23 13:13 BST (UK) »
Hi all, please forgive my delay, I have been away with work.

Wow, this is much more than I'd ever thought. Thank you all so much for your input, I've gone from having next to nothing to having a whole treasure trove.

This is really a delight, thank you Trish1120 (amazing detective work), Johnhood (love the article) & CaroleW.

Thank you all, Luke