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Re: Marriage of a Cavan man
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 08 August 23 19:43 BST (UK) »
Thank you Heywood; duly done.

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Re: Marriage of a Cavan man
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 09 August 23 07:31 BST (UK) »
Yes I believe Andrew Daly is her nephew.
His mother was Jane Gillick.

Andrew James Daly born 28 April 1896 Rathmines, Dublin.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1896/02173/1823131.pdf

As Queenie had found, his parents marriage - 1 May 1887 @ Rathgar RC Church.
Hubert DALY and Jane GILLICK
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1887/10803/5939827.pdf

Andrew Daly in 1901 census with his brother? Hugh
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cavan/Virginia/Virginia_Rural/1053015/


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Re: Marriage of a Cavan man
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 09 August 23 09:15 BST (UK) »
Thanks Kiltaglassan.

I think he’s a bit of a “ghost” ie, someone who deliberatley didnt want to be found (for whatever reason). I’ve looked at many A. Daly’s but this one may fit.

He ended up in Manchester where he got married in 1932 (father was called Hugh on the Marriage certificate) and settled for the rest of his life.

I don’t know his real place of birth or date of birth… so I start from scratch with each one until a fact or death eliminates them from my list.

There’s a family story that two sisters showed up at his house in the 1950s and he sent them away with a flea in their ear. Now this Andrew Daly does not have two sisters but he does have female Gillick cousins who he grew up with in Virgina, Cavan

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Re: Marriage of a Cavan man
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 09 August 23 17:24 BST (UK) »
There is an Andrew Daly who married Gladys Kempster in 1932, South Manchester, but that doesn’t look likely according to a published tree and the date of birth in 1939.

The one KG has referenced fits with family members etc.
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Re: Marriage of a Cavan man
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 09 August 23 17:49 BST (UK) »
In 1911, Mary Morgan is described as single.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cavan/Virginia/Virginia/350336/

There is this family group in 1901 with a niece Mary Anne, of the right age but she is b Cavan.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cavan/Virginia/Cornaslieve/1052838/

Possible death here:
Mary Morgan, 70 yrs, Broomfield
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1914/05310/4477136.pdf

If this is the same Mary Morgan, she is 44 yrs in 1901; 62 yrs in 1911 when she is with your family and 72 yrs in 1914.
The difference in ages is not unusual.
I have been looking for ‘Broomfield’ and by finding other deaths etc, it seems to be Virginia Rural in 1901 census and just Virginia in 1911.

The death of Fanny Gillick in 1901 here with Daly visitors shows her residence as Broomfield.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cavan/Virginia/Virginia_Rural/1053015/
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Re: Marriage of a Cavan man
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 09 August 23 18:47 BST (UK) »
I have been looking for ‘Broomfield’ and by finding other deaths etc, it seems to be Virginia Rural in 1901 census and just Virginia in 1911.

The death of Fanny Gillick in 1901 here with Daly visitors shows her residence as Broomfield.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cavan/Virginia/Virginia_Rural/1053015/

Indeed heywood, Fanny Gillick died in 1907 at Broomfield.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1907/05538/4552677.pdf

There's a Broomfield Close out the Cavan Road from Virginia town, but nothing on any historical maps. At the northern end of Cavan Road cul-de-sac. About 1km from the centre of town.
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In Virginia townland this might be Broomfield on the Cavan Road.
https://www.townlands.ie/cavan/castlerahan/lurgan/virginia/virgina/
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4626641#map=17/53.84071/-7.09238

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Re: Marriage of a Cavan man
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 10 August 23 10:32 BST (UK) »
Thanks so much for your help. The Andrew Daly I’m researching is indeed the one who lived in Cheadle, Cheshire, and died in the 1970s. He gave different ages 1902 and 1905 as years of birth. So I’m clutching at staws.

It seems he cut himself off from his family. I was working on the theory that he came to Manchester and stayed/followed another family member. Hence why I was interested in Mary Anne Morgan and if she had any connection with the North West of England.

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Re: Marriage of a Cavan man
« Reply #16 on: Friday 11 August 23 09:01 BST (UK) »
I haven't as yet found a birth registration for his brother Hugh Daly who was also present with his Grandmother in the 1901 census in Virginia rural.
He may have not been a brother but a cousin after all his grandmother’s maiden name was Daly.
Any suggestions?

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Re: Marriage of a Cavan man
« Reply #17 on: Friday 11 August 23 09:32 BST (UK) »
May I just ask, do you know that your Andrew Daly from Cheadle is from the Daly/Gillick family? Do you have other records for this?
The birth in Dublin is Andrew James. Did your Andrew also have this second name?
Do you have a date of birth for your Andrew?
Was there an occupation for his father, Hugh, on Andrew’s marriage certificate?
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