Bergin / Brophy - Kilkenny pre 1830

[Jack2023a]

James Bergin (m) Mary Brophy - about 1805??
One known son John Bergin 1809 - who married Alice Byrne (date unknown) assuming in the county of Kilkenny - as their first child Bridget was born 1835, Gowran.

I cannot locate anything about John's siblings - or his parents.   I have seen somewhere that James (the father) was born in Gowran, Kilkenny 1782, although not sure if this is correct - as I cannot locate any records, perhaps none exist.

The line from John and Bridget (Byrne) Bergin - family down, is pretty much ok, but it is the line going the other way, that is difficult to trace.

Any help re: this topic would be most appreciated.     Jak

[QueenoftheWest]

As more general research advice, it can be helpful to look at the sponsors at Catholic baptisms, as they were often relatives of the parents. If not a sibling, a sponsor could be a sister or brother-in-law of one of the parents, sometimes even a cousin.

I recommend going through the baptisms of John and Alice's children and looking at the sponsors.

The NLI website is a useful tool; here is the page for Gowran:
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0978

Queenie 

[Jack2023a]

Will do   

[heywood]

The baptisms show other family names as Queenie suggests and the residence shown looks like ‘Coolgreney’ or similar.
The only place I can see which is similar is Coolcreany in Tiscoffin civil parish.https://www.townlands.ie/kilkenny/gowran/tiscoffin/tiscoffin/coolcreany/

However, Griffiths Valuation shows a John Bergin in Coolgreany in Tiscoffin civil parish.
https://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=placeSearch

So hopefully both the same place.