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Rev Sydney Valentine Allen b.1894
« on: Wednesday 09 August 23 08:27 BST (UK) »
The earliest record of Sydney Valentine Allen I have is from 1918 when he married Sarah Anna Jones in Swansea. His father is named as John Allen, deceased, a police sergeant.
Sydney was a vicar at Marston with Whitgreave, Staffordshire until he became rector at Iddesleigh, Devon in 1933.
There are two other Sydney Valentine Allens (would you believe!) but I don't think either of them is the one I'm looking for.
I'd be very grateful for some help in finding his parents.

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Re: Rev Sydney Valentine Allen b.1894
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 09 August 23 09:10 BST (UK) »
I never take trees as gospel - his mum was Sarah Ann Ford b1851 in Brynmawr,Brecon

https://gw.geneanet.org/luciacosta?n=allen&oc=&p=sydney+valentine

added - I have just opened that link and you will be pleased to know there is a photograph of him ....lucky you ... :)

just curious - where on earth is Gellygaer ...sounds idyllic
added again
Gelligaer is a community in the County Borough of Caerphilly, Wales, in the Rhymney River valley - once had a Roman Fort
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Re: Rev Sydney Valentine Allen b.1894
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 09 August 23 09:33 BST (UK) »
1921 he is in Bethnal Green with his wife and daughter Beatrice.

States born Cardiff Wales

His wife and daughter born Lampeter Cardiganshire


When he married he was of Bassaleg Momouthshire

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Re: Rev Sydney Valentine Allen b.1894
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 09 August 23 09:41 BST (UK) »
Not the father but background helps.

He became a priest 21 December 1918 having graduated from St David's College Lampeter.
License Divinity

Reported in the Western Mail 24 December 1918.

So he married shortly before graduating and receiving holy orders


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Re: Rev Sydney Valentine Allen b.1894
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 09 August 23 10:10 BST (UK) »
He was at Bassaleg a short time. By Jun 1919 he was curate of St Stephen's, Cardiff Docks. One newspaper item gives his age as 30 which fits the 1944 death.

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Re: Rev Sydney Valentine Allen b.1894
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 09 August 23 10:27 BST (UK) »
Very intriguing that on his Marriage cert 23 July 1918 he signed himself off as being age 24 (born abt 1894), Clerk in Holy Orders, of Bassaleg House, Bassaleg  and not just a one off..... in 1939 his DoB was recorded as 7 March '94.

He was baptised same day as his sister Beatrice Clara, on 21 April 1887, Pontlottyn, Glamorganshire. Parents John Allen, Fitter, and Sarah Ann

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Re: Rev Sydney Valentine Allen b.1894
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 09 August 23 10:30 BST (UK) »
FindMyPast has the baptism (image/transcript) of a -
Bap 21 Apr 1887, Sydney Valentine, son of John and Sarah Ann Allen, abode Pontlottyn, father's occpn "Fitter".

Just spotted same!

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Re: Rev Sydney Valentine Allen b.1894
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 09 August 23 10:32 BST (UK) »
Dad John is supposed to be a Police Sergeant isn't he?  -marriage certificate.

He was 54 in 1944 when he died so born circa 1890 (corrected my math error)


ADDED FreeBMD has his age as 55 in 1944

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Re: Rev Sydney Valentine Allen b.1894
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 09 August 23 11:34 BST (UK) »
This appears to be Sydney's birth record:-

ALLEN, SYDNEY  VALENTINE     FORD 
GRO Reference: 1887  M Quarter in MERTHYR TYDFIL  Volume 11A  Page 490

This looks like the parents marriage:-

Marriages Jun 1879   
ALLEN    John        Knighton    11b   251    
FORD    Sarah Ann        Knighton    11b   251

The family are living here in 1891 - 23, Wine Street, Gelligaer, Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorganshire

Registration district Merthyr Tydfil
Piece number 4431
Folio 45
Page 21

John's birth year given as 1831 and Sarah's as 1847.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire