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Father of James harry elphick
« on: Saturday 12 August 23 16:49 BST (UK) »
Hi everyone.  I'm still on a mission to find the father of James harry elphick. James harry elphick was born in 1926 in Egypt. His father was in the army there.
James harry elphick married Mary Hughes on anglesey in 1946. I can find an indexed entry.
The early life of James harry wasn't great . He had an elder brother frederick and a younger sister who was also born in Egypt. Name unknown.
His mother died while giving birth to his sister . His father was in China at the time and didnt return to Egypt until 3 months after the death of his wife and the birth of his daughter. He knew nothing of both until his return. His new daughter was named by an army official as there was no one else to name her.
James harry elphick and his siblings were returned to the UK shortly afterwards to live with various relatives. James harry was with family in Portsmouth until he was 15 and joined the merchant navy. 
My mission is to try and find the name of the father of James harry elphick.  I could of course would get a copy of the marriage certificate as it would have the fathers name on there but I'm searching for him with another person and for some reason does not want to do that.
The name of the sister is also unknown.  Even to the family. All they know is that she became a nurse and got run over by a tank. She survived, shaken but unharmed .
She would of been born late twenties, early thirties in Egypt.
I am in touch with the son of James harry elphick and knows very little as his father didnt like talking about his early life.
James harry elphick spent the remainder of his life in the anglelsey area of Wales.
His brother frederick lived in borehamwood at some point. And as for the younger sister. I have nothing for her other than her surname was elphick and was born in Egypt after 1926 and the thirties. And the fact that she became a nurse and got run over by a tank 🤦‍♀️
I would really appreciate any help .

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Re: Father of James harry elphick
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 12 August 23 16:52 BST (UK) »
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Re: Father of James harry elphick
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 12 August 23 16:54 BST (UK) »
Hilda M Elphick - born Cairo 1923
Eileen A Elphick  born Egypt 1924
James H Elphick born Abbassiyeh 1926

All in the Armed forces birth indices.

There is a Hugh C (probably Clifford) Elphick in the Armed Services marriages ( Alexandria - 1916-1920), he was a Captain in the Indian Army so may be worth investigating, but it really needs the purchase of just one certificate to sort it out.

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Re: Father of James harry elphick
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 12 August 23 16:58 BST (UK) »
Thank you.
James harry elphick is right but the birth of his sister would of been after 1926. His mother died while giving birth to her. Other than that I have very little. Even the family dont know.
Thank you for looking though . Much appreciated.


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Re: Father of James harry elphick
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 12 August 23 17:00 BST (UK) »
Earlier post. https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=875284.
Hi. That was me . I was given the wrong information before I posted 🤦‍♀️

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Re: Father of James harry elphick
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 12 August 23 17:03 BST (UK) »
Hilda M Elphick - born Cairo 1923
Eileen A Elphick  born Egypt 1924
James H Elphick born Abbassiyeh 1926

All in the Armed forces birth indices.

There is a Hugh C Elphick in the Armed Services marriages ( Alexandria - 1916-1920), who may be worth investigating, but it really needs the purchase of just one certificate to sort it out.
I will chase up hugh c elphick . I would purchase a certificate but it's not my call. I may just go ahead and do it anyway as I'm getting no where without it. I was hoping the family might come up with something but they know very little.
Thank you .

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« Reply #6 on: Saturday 12 August 23 17:06 BST (UK) »
If you are going to get a certificate then the best one would be James birth
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Re: Father of James harry elphick
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 12 August 23 17:17 BST (UK) »
Hugh Clifford Elphick was divorced in 1927
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C8051009

It would not be unusual for family tales to say someone had died when they had divorced so he could be worth considering. He remarried in 1934
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Re: Father of James harry elphick
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 12 August 23 17:26 BST (UK) »
Hilda M Elphick - born Cairo 1923
Eileen A Elphick  born Egypt 1924
James H Elphick born Abbassiyeh 1926

All in the Armed forces birth indices.


Both of those girls appear in the death indexes
Eileen A Elphick - 1924 -Egypt DARM
Hilda M Elphick - 1923 - Cairo - Egypt - DARM

I can't see any other Elphick deaths after James birth on that index in Egypt

ADDED There are no other Elphick births in Egypt after James on that index
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