Arthur Russell Smart

[maddys52]

There is a mention of Arthur Raymond SMART on trove (selling an airgun to a 12 year old) in 1954:
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/248866940

So, Arthur was the manager of a Sports Store.

[maddys52]

Hi mummybear,

The marriage certificate of Florence SMART and Harold DARCY is on Ancestry. It names her parents as Arthur SMART and Lola McKAY.

There is a reference to Lola Mckay SMART of Manly aged 49 (in 1916) in the Police Gazette for selling liquor without a license. So born c1867.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/251743354/27982310 (on pg483, left hand column)
 I can't see a birth registration that fits unfortunately.

Also a Lola SMART has a couple of rings stolen in 1910 (of Farley, Raglan St, Manly)
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/251649239

There is a Lola McKAY married John CAMERON at Forbes in 1888. However I can't see a marriage for Arthur SMART to a Mary/Lola McKAY or CAMERON.

There is these births to John CAMERON and Lola M: (there may be more, it's a bit hard to tell as there are many John and Mary CAMERONs.
1890  Florence  (at Forbes)
1897  Frank E  (at Parkes)

As you probably know, children born to Arthur SMART and Mary Lola at Manly are:
1900  Elizabeth
1902  Florence
1904  Arthur R
1905  Walter
1908  Reginald

These may not be the same Mary Lola McKAY, it seems strange to name 2 children Florence.

There is a death for a Lola SMART in 1956 at Wyong, however on the index it says her age is 75, which is a bit young compared to the Police Gazette entry, however, still a possibility.

Will keep digging. 

[maddys52]

If you have Florence SMART's birth certificate it should have her parent's marriage date. Is it possible to list here all the details on the birth certificate? 

[maddys52]

Here is an article about the liquor selling in 1916 - it says her age is 40.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/120379925

This would make her too young to be marrying John CAMERON in 1888 at Forbes, so that may be simply a red herring. 

[maddys52]

Interesting case where Lola SMART of Raglan St, Manly is applying for workers' compensation after the death of her husband Arthur from lead poisoning in 1927.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/16370742
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/16385270

[maddys52]

Lola Mary SMART is on the electoral roll at Waterloo in 1949 at 11 Grays Lane. At the same address is a couple of men named DARCY, possibly grandchildren? so this makes the death in 1956 look more likely, as the index says "aged 75 Waterloo", though the place of registration is Wyong. (Registration number 23304/1956) Very strange. It would be interesting to see who the informant was on the death certificate - if it was a DARCY.

[Mummybear1]

It very strange I got birth certificate which say Arthur smart and Mary Lola McKay was married on September 27 1895
11 grays Land waterloo yes Darcy was in law
Once I get right Mary I will look at her birth certificate will also get dead certificate it will be interesting

[maddys52]

Difficult to find a birth registration for Mary Lola McKAY.

From Florence's birth certificate in 1902, Mary Lola is 29 years old, so born c1873 (and says in Forbes).

Police Gazette in 1916 - her age is either 40 or 49, so born c1867 or 1876.

Age on death certificate (assuming it is the correct one) in 1956 is 75, so born c1881.

The only birth I can see registered at Forbes in this time period is Ann McKAY (1867, parents Thomas and Bridget). Of course, the birth may not have been registered in Forbes. 

The death certificate is least likely to have the correct age (depends on what the informant knew). If Mary Lola was a bit older than Arthur SMART, she may have wanted to take a few years off her age. Still, perplexing.

[cando]

Same man.  Earlier thread.
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=682194.0