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The meaning of AB?
« on: Monday 14 August 23 08:09 BST (UK) »
The screenshot below comes from the Chester-le-Street records for 1765 and at the bottom is a baptism with the letters AB. I suspect that this might mean a bastard, but am happy to be wrong. Can anyone help, please?

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Re: The meaning of AB?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 14 August 23 08:33 BST (UK) »
This looks to be from the Bishops Transcript.
The transcriptions on Durham Records Online are from the PR so I compared a few including this one which have this A.B.
They all say the child was illegitimate.

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Re: The meaning of AB?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 14 August 23 08:40 BST (UK) »
I would agree " A Bastard". The entry the initials come after have father and mother with different surnames. All the others above (where A B doesn't appear) have parents written in the format : [father's fore name] and [mother's forename] [surname] indicating a married couple
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: The meaning of AB?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 14 August 23 08:50 BST (UK) »
Thanks to you both. I appreciate your knowledge and quick responses.
Peter


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Re: The meaning of AB?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 14 August 23 14:28 BST (UK) »
I would question whether it's an abbreviation for "A Bastard", since the A is followed by a colon ("A:"), showing that it's an abbreviation, which the indefinite article "A" clearly isn't.

I accept that A:B. might well mean illegitimate, and if all families where this appears have a couple with different surnames that would be good evidence for that. The opinion of Durham Records Online is also worth noting, since they have a lot of experience of these documents, but I still don't think that explains exactly what the letters stand for. I was thinking it might be A.... Born, but I can't think of a suitable word beginning with 'A'.

(The other thing that crossed my mind was that it might be Anabaptist, so referring to someone coming to the C of E after an association with them, but if all the couples appear to be unmarried, that's probably unlikely.)
Researching among others:
Bartle, Bilton, Bingley, Campbell, Craven, Emmott, Harcourt, Hirst, Kellet(t), Kennedy,
Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

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Re: The meaning of AB?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 14 August 23 14:46 BST (UK) »
There's another AB on the previous page, also illegitimate, and a couple more on page 7 so the meaning is pretty clear.
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Re: The meaning of AB?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 14 August 23 14:49 BST (UK) »
Durham Records Online's transcript is from the PR, not the BT which is what this image is
I haven't seen the PR but  as the site is very reliable  I'd expect that if it said A B in the PR then that would be in the record - perhaps with an explanatory note to say they conclude it means illegitimate?

Durham Record Office - or as its now known, Durham Archives is still closed while they move premises.
TWAS have the PRs on microfilm so if Peter is in that area and can visit (or posts a lookup request in RC in case anyone else is going) he should be able to find out what the PR says and maybe clarify the situation.

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Re: The meaning of AB?
« Reply #7 on: Monday 14 August 23 15:42 BST (UK) »
Could it be Adult Baptism
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Re: The meaning of AB?
« Reply #8 on: Monday 14 August 23 15:46 BST (UK) »
Could it be Adult Baptism

All the instances that I've found where it occurs are of children where just the mother is mentioned or parents have different surnames, so I think it must indicate illegitimate.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott