Author Topic: Alice Lottie Harris born 1879 and Frederick Harris born 1879 in Wandsworth  (Read 598 times)

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I'm a bit lost trying to find this couple. On the 1911 census they are together in Putney with their 4 children - Ronald, Reginald and twins James and Charles. They had been married for 11 years according to the census. Alice then marries Frederick G Mandry in 1913 also in Wandsworth and goes on to have 2 more children Francis and Margaret Lilian. She dies in 1930. Alice was shown on the 1911 census to have been born in Walsingham, Norfolk.

I am struggling to find a birth for Alice, her on the census before her marriage and indeed her marriage record to Frederick Harris.

Any help with this would be really appreciated.

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Re: Alice Lottie Harris born 1879 and Frederick Harris born 1879 in Wandsworth
« Reply #1 on: Monday 14 August 23 11:15 BST (UK) »
HARRIS, CHARLES    mmn   COLEMAN 
GRO Reference: 1909  M Quarter in WANDSWORTH  Volume 01D  Page 755

HARRIS, JAMES       mmn COLEMAN 
GRO Reference: 1909  M Quarter in WANDSWORTH  Volume 01D  Page 755   
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Re: Alice Lottie Harris born 1879 and Frederick Harris born 1879 in Wandsworth
« Reply #2 on: Monday 14 August 23 11:26 BST (UK) »
What information does Alice's marriage to Frederick Mandry give regarding her father and his.

Have you found Frederick on all census prior to the marriage.  I note that like Frederick Harris he was born in Westminster

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I note that the birth of Francis Mandry gives mmn Harris and the birth of Margaret Mandry says Coleman.  I also wonder if Frederick Harris and Frederick Mandry are the same person, do you have Frederick Mandry in 1911
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Re: Alice Lottie Harris born 1879 and Frederick Harris born 1879 in Wandsworth
« Reply #3 on: Monday 14 August 23 12:09 BST (UK) »
FindMyPast has the baptisms of -
Alice Lottey, 18 May 1873, abode Old Walsingham, parents Frederick Henry and Sarah Bezon (as transcribed) - father's occpn Butcher. The original could be Bezor?
 
Kate Beazon, 10 May 1874, Old Walsingham, parents Frederick Henry and Sarah Lewis Beazon (as transcribed) - father's occpn Butcher. The original could be Beazor.

Alice L Beazor, age 7, born Great Walsingham is with parents and siblings on the 1881 Census

Possible for Alice Lottie Harris in 1911?


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Re: Alice Lottie Harris born 1879 and Frederick Harris born 1879 in Wandsworth
« Reply #4 on: Monday 14 August 23 12:11 BST (UK) »
Hi
The oldest two children on the 1911 census have a birth reg of Beazor mdn name Coleman
Ronald Francis Sep 1901 Chelsea
Reginald Lewis  June 1903 Chelsea
Alice's mother was a Miss Lewis.

1901 76 Church st Chelsea
Alice Beazor married 27 boarder born Walsingham
So it looks like hanes teulu has cracked it.

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Re: Alice Lottie Harris born 1879 and Frederick Harris born 1879 in Wandsworth
« Reply #5 on: Monday 14 August 23 12:14 BST (UK) »
Hi
The oldest two children on the 1911 census have a birth reg of Beazor mdn name Coleman
Ronald Francis Sep 1901 Chelsea
Reginald Lewis  June 1903 Chelsea

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Good find Ciderdrinker  :)
I did not look for them    ::)
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Re: Alice Lottie Harris born 1879 and Frederick Harris born 1879 in Wandsworth
« Reply #6 on: Monday 14 August 23 12:20 BST (UK) »
The birth registration is
Alice Lottie Beazor, 2nd qtr 1873, Walsingham, 48  249 - mmn not on FindMyPast.

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Re: Alice Lottie Harris born 1879 and Frederick Harris born 1879 in Wandsworth
« Reply #7 on: Monday 14 August 23 12:22 BST (UK) »
The birth registration is
Alice Lottie Beazor, 2nd qtr 1873, Walsingham, 48  249 - mmn not on FindMyPast.

MMN LEWIS
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Re: Alice Lottie Harris born 1879 and Frederick Harris born 1879 in Wandsworth
« Reply #8 on: Monday 14 August 23 21:19 BST (UK) »
Oh wow that’s great thanks! I knew that some of the births had maiden name Coleman and some Harris. I could not find a birth for her anywhere and now I see she is 10 years older! Her marriage to Francis Mandry has the father blank. I did wonder if the two Francis’s were the same person as well especially with one of the twins later using the surname Mandry.

You have helped me so much thanks!