Author Topic: George Baker (c.1846-1944) m. Mary Iles (1858-1893) from Ararat, Victoria  (Read 1462 times)

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Re: George Baker (c.1846-1944) m. Mary Iles (1858-1893) from Ararat, Victoria
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 24 August 23 07:21 BST (UK) »
this tree states George Baker b 1845 - died
George Baker b 1847 - died 1944
not all trees are correct was George 97 when he died ??
 


Yes. -/+ This is seen in Reply #4
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Re: George Baker (c.1846-1944) m. Mary Iles (1858-1893) from Ararat, Victoria
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 24 August 23 09:48 BST (UK) »
Thank you all for your input - it's great to be able to collaborate on this.


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Re: George Baker (c.1846-1944) m. Mary Iles (1858-1893) from Ararat, Victoria
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 24 August 23 09:56 BST (UK) »
The Eliza Baker (Halliday) obit is interesting - firstly she dies in 1897, 23 years after George Baker married Mary Iles, so this isn't a case where the son never knew his mother because she died when the son was very young. And yet on George's marriage cert. to Mary Iles it says mother unknown. I also don't get the impression that this is a family where young children were sent away or otherwise alienated from their parents - from the obit, it sounds like the family were close. So again, I feel like George would have known Eliza if he were her son. It's a lot to read into an obit, I know... but you gotta work with what you've got!

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Re: George Baker (c.1846-1944) m. Mary Iles (1858-1893) from Ararat, Victoria
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 24 August 23 10:11 BST (UK) »
On the marriage cert. to Mary Iles it gives father's name as John Baker. I know sometimes difficult handwriting can introduce uncertainty when it comes to reading names, but this seems unambiguous to me.

Searching for a suitable John Baker, I found one record of a marriage (attached) in Adelaide of John Baker and Hannah Price from 1847. Interestingly, one of the witnesses is another Baker, but here the first name isn't very clear - any suggestions as to what it is? And what do we think about Baker / Pride as candidates for George Baker's parents?

Here's the marriage register entry on familysearch:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSK3-N22J?i=175&cat=6408


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Re: George Baker (c.1846-1944) m. Mary Iles (1858-1893) from Ararat, Victoria
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 24 August 23 10:38 BST (UK) »

This seems to be John Baker & Hannah Pride

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/201500343/john-baker

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Re: George Baker (c.1846-1944) m. Mary Iles (1858-1893) from Ararat, Victoria
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 24 August 23 10:40 BST (UK) »
That's a great find - I see they were from Mitcham, the same place that Job and Eliza Baker lived

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Re: George Baker (c.1846-1944) m. Mary Iles (1858-1893) from Ararat, Victoria
« Reply #24 on: Friday 25 August 23 01:57 BST (UK) »
To me the witnesses are Job BAKER and Mary   ?....MAN

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Re: George Baker (c.1846-1944) m. Mary Iles (1858-1893) from Ararat, Victoria
« Reply #25 on: Friday 25 August 23 06:39 BST (UK) »
  And yet on George's marriage cert. to Mary Iles it says mother unknown. 

On the marriage cert. to Mary Iles it gives father's name as John Baker. I know sometimes difficult handwriting can introduce uncertainty when it comes to reading names, but this seems unambiguous to me.



So have you now purchased the Marriage Certificate, or otherwise, where does the information come from re father John BAKER and mother UK?

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Re: George Baker (c.1846-1944) m. Mary Iles (1858-1893) from Ararat, Victoria
« Reply #26 on: Friday 25 August 23 09:05 BST (UK) »

So have you now purchased the Marriage Certificate, or otherwise, where does the information come from re father John BAKER and mother UK?

Sue


I had purchased the Marriage Certificate and attached it.  See reply #15.