(cont.)
“JT [sic] Cleary” is mentioned as one of John Baker’s daughters in the obit (see above).
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/5272491:1780?ssrc=pt&tid=185434371&pid=132445917779Jane Cleary is buried with her parents, John and Hannah Baker
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/201500343/john-baker John’s second daughter was with second wife Sarah Lockier – the daughter’s name was Mary Lydia Maria Baker, born 1881 in Glen Osmond.
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/5464723:1778?ssrc=pt&tid=185434371&pid=132446102818 Returning to John’s sister, Rebecca Brinkworth, immigration papers for Chas. Brinkworth and Rebecca Brinkworth give their ages as 32 and 42 respectively.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS8N-KSPH?cc=2613135&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AWX8D-TW3Z Burial records for Chas. in 1889 (
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/236898585/charles-brinkworth) and Rebecca in 1896 (
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/236898765/rebecca-brinkworth) confirm these ages, giving year of birth for Rebecca c.1809-1812.
Chas. Brinkworth left a will. The two witnesses to the will are John Baker of Glen Osmond-Road (same address cited in death notice for wife Hannah), and Job Baker. The only beneficiary of the will is Rebecca Brinkworth.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSN1-GCVH?cc=3007557&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3A7WDH-8X2M On the marriage of John Baker to Hannah Price, Job Baker is a witness.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSK3-N22J?i=175&cat=6408 On the marriage of Job Baker to Eliza Halliday in Woodchester, Gloucestershire (also near Stroud, where John was from, and very close to Avening, where sister Rebecca married), his father is given as George Baker, Weaver, the same as on Rebecca's marriage.
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/5156/images/41511_1831109387_4353-00012?pId=1555213https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/5156/images/41511_1831109387_4353-00012?pId=1555213 That’s all the new info I have for now. It all ties together nicely, especially with the Will confirming the relationships.
Questions remaining are:
1. Rebecca’s age – her immigration and burial records are more or less consistent, giving year of birth either 1809 or 1812. Yet on Rebecca’s 1839 marriage to Charles Brinkworth, both bride and groom are listed as ‘underage’. If she were born c.1809/12 she would be in her late twenties when married. Interestingly, Job and his wife Eliza are also described as minors on their marriage.
2. Was George Baker who married Mary Iles the son of John Baker (brother of Job and Rebecca)? John Baker’s obit says he was survived by two daughters. George was still alive at this time, why was he not mentioned? My only thought is that the obit was probably prepared by either his sister, Rebecca Brinkworth, or his daughter, Jane Cleary. If his daughter, she was born in 1862, so some 16 years after George. George migrated to Ararat near Melbourne at some point, maybe Jane Cleary was unaware of him? But then, on George’s marriage to Mary Iles, he gives his father’s name but says mother unknown. Her married in 1874, at which time Hannah Baker was still living. It’s not a case where mum died in childbirth and the child never knew her.
So, problems, and yet George’s marriage gives father John Baker, and there’s a marriage a year ahead of George’s likely birthdate which looks good. I couldn’t see any other John Baker marriages to fit the facts.
Any suggestions on what else I can do to establish a link (or not) between George and father John, or how some of these problems might be explained?
Thanks again for everyone’s help!
