Thomas Alcock m Elizabeth Wilcock - Marriage Year

[Annie65115]

The entry on Findagrave suggests that that is the correct family

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/230373512/elizabeth-alcock

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The known 6 children of Thomas and Mary.

1 Ann c1830, married Thomas Daniel in 1850. Ann died 1885 Drotwich.

2 Thomas c1832, married Martha Mary Davies in 1853. They went to NSW between 1853-53 had 2 children there then return by 1864. They appear on 1871 census. Martha dies in 1872 and believe he reurned to NSW and died 1902.

3.Emma c1834, married Edward Thackray 1853 Claines. Emma died 1912 York

4.Jane c1836, married Charles Sparshott 1860. Jane died 1915 Worcester

5. John c1838 married Sarah Williams (Redfern NSW, Australia 1864 ) Reappears in UK census from 1891 census onwards. Dies 1918 Kensington.

6 Richard c1850, marries Julia Hughes. Richard dies 1884 West Derby.

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Probate for John 1918

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The 4 possible known children of Elizabeth & Thomas Alcock.

1. Joseph c1836. Marries Elizabeth Graham 1859 West Derby. Dies 1900 West Derby

2.Harriet c1838. Marries as Harriet Brooks Alcock aged 19/John Smith occ tailor. by 1861 John is a widow with daughter Lucy aged 2.

SMITH, HARRIET       aged 20 
GRO Reference: 1859  M Quarter in WEST DERBY AND TOXTETH PARK  Volume 08B  Page 338

SMITH, LUCY       mmn ALLCOCK 
GRO Reference: 1858  D Quarter in WEST DERBY & TOXTETH PARK  Volume 08B  Page 403

3.Lucy c1842  still alive on 1911 census in West Derby--cannot find a death

4.Eliza c1844  Marries William Ferriday Evans. Appears as a widow in 1911 census. Dies aged 68 1914 West Derby

John

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Probate of Martha Mary Alcock

[Gerry]

Many thanks to everyone for their interest and patience in this complicated family history.   I was hoping the research would find a marriage record for the parents of Elizabeth Alcock b.1844 who married William Ferriday Evans in 1868, together with a possible lead to an earlier Alcock generation.   The Alcock family history is complex and there appears to be no definitive answer to the family line, or am I having another senior moment and missing the obvious?    Thanks again, everyone.

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Gerry, I personally suspect that Thomas Alcock had a marriage to Mary Brooks and a "relationship" with Elizabeth Brooks her sister. The birth of Lucy with mmn Brooks is a very good indicator. As well as this Elizabeth's daughter Harriet at marriage is Harriet Brooks Alcock with a father of Thomas on her marriage cert. Joseph her son also uses the Brooks name when a witness to Harriet's marriage.
A digital image Joseph's marriage would cost less than a couple of cups of coffee (Costa anyway).

As I say to many coincidences. Believe other RC's would say the same.

John

Should have added that there is online an image of Elizabeth's marriage to William Ferriday Evans and it records her father as Thomas Alcock-occ-Lace Manfacturer.

[trish1120]

Looks likely to me

[Gerry]

John

Image found on Ancestry.   Marriage 29th September 1857, St Mary's Church, Edge Hill, Liverpool.
John Smith to - Harriet Brooks Alcock, 19, Father: Thomas Alcock, Witness: Joseph Brooks Alcock

I already hold a marriage certificate for William Ferriday Evans and Elizabeth.

Thanks for your persistence