Martin of Tipton

[trish1120]

1853 Marriage is on FreeREG she is a Spinster.

Is this the 1871 you have?

William Martin 43 Head
Ann Martin 38   Wife
William Martin 18 Son
Benjamin Martin 12 Son
Ann M Martin 6   Daughter
Joseph Martin 1   Son

Could you give me the 1881 as I cant find it (I'm useless using the ref no's) with parents William/Ann

[trish1120]

Given the gap in children could William have married twice?

[trish1120]

Got 1881 now
under Marten

[trish1120]

Back later WWC on here now, going for England as Australia out

[angel~eyes]

Thank you Trish this is really helpful. I have looked on GRO all births MMN Armstrong- I really feel this is the right path. I have no DNA links at all with the other line x

[angel~eyes]

As way of an update. I have managed to build a tree around William Martin and Ann Armstrong as an alternative to the other line. I have included the marriage of William to Ann Cartwright as while I was delving into Ann's past I came across an illegitimate child possible son of her neighbour Mr Cartwright. The boy later turns up in Dudley and settles down using both surnames. I later found he was a workhouse child. I then found although Ann was born in Shropshire there are 3 brothers baptised in Old Swinford and settled in the Stourbridge/Dudley area. All names including her fathers are names my James Edward gave her children. Has I had added them to my main tree I was delighted that four further generations back and 2 DNA matches on both lines. So the only key to the puzzle is John Edward's marriage to Ellen Goodman as this should reveal his father's name.
One other point to note is my Grandad gave William as his father's name when he married my Nan.

[trish1120]

I can't see a Marriage for John Edward and Ellen unfortunately as if found you get get the cert.

[angel~eyes]

Thanks Trish just my luck if they never married x