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Re: Trying to find a marriage record
« Reply #9 on: Monday 21 August 23 03:41 BST (UK) »
 
UK Marriage Dec 1/4 1880

NEVILLE George
WALKER   Lucy   
Amersham 3a/703 


Victorian Death matching Springvale details.
NEVILLE Joseph
WALKER Lucy
NEVILLE George
FITZROY
38
1928
Reg 10050

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Re: Trying to find a marriage record
« Reply #10 on: Monday 21 August 23 05:06 BST (UK) »
Is this his death notice? Known as George? I don’t see a George registration.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/205469566?searchTerm=Joseph%20neville

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Re: Trying to find a marriage record
« Reply #11 on: Monday 21 August 23 06:29 BST (UK) »
Perhaps just known as George, as you suggest.

The lass whom I suspect was Joseph's first wife, Peggy, may have had the surname POLAN not TOLAN.

There is this birth
Margt Ctine POLAN
1896/18452
At Cashel, Victoria
Father Jas Albt Polan
Mother Isabella Margt COLWELL

Peggy being a diminutive of Margaret.
Guessing really ;D

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Re: Trying to find a marriage record
« Reply #12 on: Monday 21 August 23 06:36 BST (UK) »
I cannot see that Joseph has a WW1 file. But I thought that might be how they met.


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Re: Trying to find a marriage record
« Reply #13 on: Monday 21 August 23 07:03 BST (UK) »
Search of National Archives Australia Passenger lists into Fremantle EDIT Ancestry Passenger
lists shows

1911 from London
NEVILLE Joseph
A carman.

In Vctoria from round 1917, a George  NEVILLE is a bread carter living with Elizabeth  (Home Duties) at 80 Rochester Road Kew.

Joseph is not showing on UK census 1911 with the others of his family in Amersham.
Longshot really ::)

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Re: Trying to find a marriage record
« Reply #14 on: Monday 21 August 23 07:27 BST (UK) »
This is the info I have:

Born Elizabeth Jane Spencer 21st April 1885 in Southampton(I have her bc)
1901: 16 yrs old in Southampton
1907 married Henry Edward Stratford in Southampton
1908: daughter Mabel Beatrice is born (Mabel goes by the name May later in life)
1911: servant in household, Oxford St, St Marylebone (listed as married 4 yrs 1 child). Henry is not with her, he is still in Southampton as is Mabel
1940: her name appears as E J Neville as a place for my aunt to stay during ww2.
Dec 1949: she is on a passenger list as Mrs E J Neville leaving Melbourne, Australia for England (staying at my dad's address)
March 1950: returning to Melbourne, Australia
1962: her believed death record in Melbourne, Australia

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Re: Trying to find a marriage record
« Reply #15 on: Monday 21 August 23 07:53 BST (UK) »
Hi,
So have you read the replies here to your query?

Sue

ADDING FYI, This is the information you may find on a Victorian Death Certificate.
Depending on the knowledge of the informant.

Name
Date
Death place
Age
Occupation
Cause of death
Parents' names
Spouse names
Marriage details
Chns names
No of chn
Birthplace
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Re: Trying to find a marriage record
« Reply #16 on: Monday 21 August 23 10:38 BST (UK) »
Perhaps just known as George, as you suggest.

The lass whom I suspect was Joseph's first wife, Peggy, may have had the surname POLAN not TOLAN.

There is this birth
Margt Ctine POLAN
1896/18452
At Cashel, Victoria
Father Jas Albt Polan
Mother Isabella Margt COLWELL

Peggy being a diminutive of Margaret.
Guessing really ;D

Sue

a very good guess ...lol

town of Cashel,Victoria given as birth place

https://en.geneanet.org/cercles/view/colgnecmbirthsausvic/1203687
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford

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Re: Trying to find a marriage record
« Reply #17 on: Monday 21 August 23 17:09 BST (UK) »
I am wondering if this is Elizabeth, found it on Find my Past

Elizabeth Jane Neville
BIRTH    unknown     DEATH    20 Mar 1962
BURIAL    Springvale Botanical Cemetery  Springvale, Greater Dandenong City, Victoria, Australia
PLOT   Church of England, Compartment M, Section 8, Grave 25


Also this is on Ancestry

Name   Elizabeth Jane Neville
Death Age   77   Birth Date   abt 1885   Death Date   Abt 1962   Death Place   Kew, Victoria
Registration Date   1962   Registration Place   Australia   Registration Number   9314

Cass

Just noticed on FAG this entry for fellow in Same grave

Joseph Neville   BIRTH   unknown   DEATH   26 Jul 1928
BURIAL  Springvale Botanical Cemetery  Springvale, Greater Dandenong City, Victoria, Australia
PLOT  Church of England, Compartment M, Section 8, Grave 25

And
Peggy Neville    BIRTH   unknown   DEATH   4 Feb 1915
BURIAL  Springvale Botanical Cemetery

I will definitely have to.look in to this further, as I'm unsure when she left for Australia, it is a possibility she married and had another child