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Dubois family help - late 17/18thC
« on: Thursday 24 August 23 15:22 BST (UK) »
Hi everyone,

Following on from this thread, I am trying to discover more about the Dubois family, who I believe possibly lived in Ireland during the late 1700s and earlier.

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=875841.0

As stated in the thread, Francis was a Sergeant in the 18th Light Dragoons, who I believe were raised in Ireland and frequently garrisoned there. At least one of his children (Mary Ann 1808) was born in the country and he married an Irish woman (Susanna Sheridan).

I'm a complete novice regarding Irish genealogy and would be thankful for any resources or information which could help me with this family and indeed the Sheridan family. Obviously the French surname also intrigues me and I can't be sure when Francis's family emigrated to Ireland or if he was French himself.

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Samuel
2nd generation - Fawcett, Elsbury, Sanders, Aldridge
3rd - as above, Hutchison, Babb, Enticott, Edwards
4th - as above, Turner, Bater, Marshall, Webb, Chick, Cottey, Tozer, Rowland
5th - as above, Broomfield, Fry, Wood, Clark, Baker, Boyland, Lane, Bryant, Pearce, Carey, Bailey, Freeman, Hill

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Re: Dubois family help - late 17/18thC
« Reply #1 on: Friday 25 August 23 18:40 BST (UK) »
I only tried the Dubois surname out.
Use the Church Records there are 20 Dubois results, some may only be as witnesses.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/
You need to sign in and prove your not a robot but it's a free and safe Government run site.
There are later records on the Civil Records section.

2 early records here http://census.nationalarchives.ie/search/dm/home.jsp
and you might find something in the rest of their database
https://genealogy.nationalarchives.ie/



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Re: Dubois family help - late 17/18thC
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 29 August 23 04:13 BST (UK) »
If I understand the posts on the linked, previous thread correctly, then some military records survive for Francis? What exactly are those?
Do they include a location for where he enlisted?
Any trace of him in pension records, or in one of the records of the Royal Hospitals?

Why do you say Susanna, his wife was Irish? In the previous thread, it was stated that their marriage record noted that she was "of this parish" where they were married, which was somewhere in England?
BRENNANx2 Davidstown/Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh/Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee/Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough/Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson/Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry/Oulart;WALSH Kilrane/Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: Dubois family help - late 17/18thC
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 29 August 23 19:23 BST (UK) »
Thank you both.

If I understand some of the posts on the linked, previous thread correctly, then some military records survive for Francis? What exactly are those?
Do they include a location for where he enlisted?
Any trace of him in pension records, or in one of the records of the Royal Hospitals?

Why do you say Susanna, his wife was Irish? In the previous thread, it was stated that their marriage record noted that she was "of this parish" where they were married, which was somewhere in England?

There is only one military record I have found. It does not say where he enlisted only when.

UK, Regimental Registers of Service, 1756-1900
Enlisted: 10 Sep 1799

She was living in York when she married, but on the 1841 England Census (almost certainly her) she is listed as living alongside the family of John Freeman and having been born in Ireland.
2nd generation - Fawcett, Elsbury, Sanders, Aldridge
3rd - as above, Hutchison, Babb, Enticott, Edwards
4th - as above, Turner, Bater, Marshall, Webb, Chick, Cottey, Tozer, Rowland
5th - as above, Broomfield, Fry, Wood, Clark, Baker, Boyland, Lane, Bryant, Pearce, Carey, Bailey, Freeman, Hill


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Re: Dubois family help - late 17/18thC
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 29 August 23 19:53 BST (UK) »
Well some military sites say the regiment was stationed in England from 1797-99 - between coming back from Santo Domingo and going off to Holland. That might point to enlistment in England, wherever they were stationed - usually a depot party would be left behind when they went off on active service.
BRENNANx2 Davidstown/Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh/Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee/Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough/Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson/Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry/Oulart;WALSH Kilrane/Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: Dubois family help - late 17/18thC
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 29 August 23 21:49 BST (UK) »
Thank you. Something else that interests me is his rapid promotion to Sergeant - he was promoted to Corporal at the start of 1800 and Sergeant by Apr 1800. Makes me think he must have distinguished himself in battle at some point?
2nd generation - Fawcett, Elsbury, Sanders, Aldridge
3rd - as above, Hutchison, Babb, Enticott, Edwards
4th - as above, Turner, Bater, Marshall, Webb, Chick, Cottey, Tozer, Rowland
5th - as above, Broomfield, Fry, Wood, Clark, Baker, Boyland, Lane, Bryant, Pearce, Carey, Bailey, Freeman, Hill

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Re: Dubois family help - late 17/18thC
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 29 August 23 22:08 BST (UK) »
Thank you. Something else that interests me is his rapid promotion to Sergeant - he was promoted to Corporal at the start of 1800 and Sergeant by Apr 1800. Makes me think he must have distinguished himself in battle at some point?

Well, there was a war on! Lots of men needed. And sergeants needed to be literate which ruled out  many as incapable of promotion - so if he could read/write and had an aptitude, then why not? In WWI and WWII men made it from enlisted to colonels or even generals - I known of at least one man who enlisted in 1939 as a private and ended the war as a Brigadier (general).

Also, the regiment fought in a battle in Holland in September 1799, so maybe some dead men's shoes to fill (just speculation)?
BRENNANx2 Davidstown/Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh/Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee/Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough/Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson/Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry/Oulart;WALSH Kilrane/Wex; WHITE Tagoat area