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Samuel Morgan of 'Westminster Bath', married in Chipping Sodbury
« on: Friday 25 August 23 17:08 BST (UK) »
Hello, can anyone explain where the parish of Westminster Bath is? Samuel Morgan was married in the parish of Chipping Sodbury, but is named as of the parish of Westminster Bath (see picture). Can anyone explain?
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Re: Samuel Morgan of 'Westminster Bath', married in Chipping Sodbury
« Reply #1 on: Friday 25 August 23 17:27 BST (UK) »
I can't answer the question, but I went to Bath Ancestors in search of inspiration and discovered a Samuel son of Joseph Morgan of Chipping Sodbury who was made an apprentice in Bath in 1750. More details:

http://bathancestors.org.uk/index.php
Researching among others:
Bartle, Bilton, Bingley, Campbell, Craven, Emmott, Harcourt, Hirst, Kellet(t), Kennedy,
Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

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Re: Samuel Morgan of 'Westminster Bath', married in Chipping Sodbury
« Reply #2 on: Friday 25 August 23 20:16 BST (UK) »
Looking at the transcript, they were married by Licence.  So I checked on the Forest of Dean Family History Trust* which has Gloucestershire Marriage Allegations 1637-1837 and Marriage Bonds 1730-1823

Free: Just have to register to have access to the records.

https://forest-of-dean.net

(Gloucestershire Family History Society -  have taken over responsibility for maintaining the site).

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Two records - one being the Bond

10 April 1762

Samuel MORGAN - occupation: Tyler & Plasterer,
residence: Chipping Sodbury

Sarah HARRIS - residence: Chipping Sodbury

He Marks

Witness 1 : the mark of Nathaniel PYRK of Wickwar - tyler and plasterer
Witness 2: John Walter

Sealed and Delivered in the presence of : W Hughes

Event type: Marriage Bond

Memoranda: The groom and Nathaniel PYRK are bound to the sum of £200 to marry at Chipping Sodbury


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The other record is the Licence - which gives ages

10 April 1762

Samuel MORGAN - aged 25, Bachelor: Occupation: Tyler & Plasterer, residence: Chipping Sodbury

Sarah HARRIS, over 21, Spinster, residence: Chipping Sodbury

He marks

Marriage Allegation: To marry at Chipping Sodbury, Licence issued by W Hughes


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Which confirms the Contributors link. 

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Re: Samuel Morgan of 'Westminster Bath', married in Chipping Sodbury
« Reply #3 on: Friday 25 August 23 20:48 BST (UK) »
As it Seems, Samuel MORGAN was apprenticed to Giles COLLINS....

Went back to the Forest of Dean Licences and found

27 December 1722

Giles COLLINS of Bath
married
Mary DEEK of Chipping Sodbury

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Samuel's father was: Joseph MORGAN of Chipping Sodbury and Samuel MORGAN was born C1737.

by Licence

Submitted by Mr Shellard: 30 July 1723


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Re: Samuel Morgan of 'Westminster Bath', married in Chipping Sodbury
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 26 August 23 09:03 BST (UK) »
If you use Google Book, and search for ......Westminster, Bath


There are old articles -  which mentions

'in the Diocese of Westminster, Bath and Wells'

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Re: Samuel Morgan of 'Westminster Bath', married in Chipping Sodbury
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 26 August 23 10:02 BST (UK) »
Is "Bath" meant to stand for Bachelor? - in its funny way.

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« Reply #6 on: Saturday 26 August 23 10:21 BST (UK) »
I am puzzled?

The diocese of Bath & Wells has had different names over the years:

909 - Diocese of Wells
1088 - Diocese of Bath
1197 - Diocese of Glastonbury, also known as the Diocese of Bath and Glastonbury
1219 - Diocese of Bath
1245 - Diocese of Bath and Wells

I cannot find any reference to a parish of Westminster?

Capetown, your reference in your last post (from Calendar of the Patent Rolls) shows:
Oct 16 Westminster      Presentation of Richard Byndegle, vicar of Tekenham, in the Diocese of Bath and Wells . . . . . .

"Oct 16 Westminster" in one column; remainder of the text in a second column!

(I believe "Tekenham to be Tickenham, just a few miles from my home town!)
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Re: Samuel Morgan of 'Westminster Bath', married in Chipping Sodbury
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 26 August 23 10:35 BST (UK) »
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Re: Samuel Morgan of 'Westminster Bath', married in Chipping Sodbury
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 26 August 23 13:32 BST (UK) »
No Bath is not a version of bachelor.
Bath the town is in Somerset as is Wells.

Bit of googling;
The Diocese of Bath and Wells is a diocese in the Church of England Province of Canterbury in England. The diocese covers the county of Somerset and a small area of Dorset. The Episcopal seat of the Bishop of Bath and Wells is located in the Cathedral Church of Saint Andrew in the city of Wells in Somerset.

As found by other it appears Samuel was apprenticed in Bath to Giles Collins.

Trish :)
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