72, Constable Gardens, Edgware, Middsx

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Didn’t come up on Ancestry but thanks for the link.  Presume you haven’t found the address?

Was her mmn Myhan.  There is a tree on Ancestry that says Frances married Herbert Hunt.  Mind you - it also shows she was b 22.4.1897 but was baptised 18.4.1897 

Carole, that tree like so many on Anc* has some correct info, other bits guess work.

Should have added on my last post that my hunch re a daughter proved correct. The probate record confirms the daughter at least F*P*Payne.

Thanks again everyone.

SS

[Ladyhawk]

Should have added on my last post that my hunch re a son and daughter proved correct. The probate record confirms the daughter at least F*P*Payne.

Have sent you a PM with some details of a possibility for the other person S A Smith on the probate record for Frances

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Received and replied Ladyhawk, Thanks

SS

[softly softly]

This was a little bit of info from the person I was trying to help.

The addresses I have for them: for Frances, Liverpool in childhood, later on 72 Constable Gardens, Edgeware, Middlesex, England, and The Camp.

Found Frances Smith from 1928-34 on electoral registers with Paul Francis Smith, so he is probably the father of daughter born 1928. Wonder what happened to him though?

[MonicaL]

Did Frances show as married or widowed on her 1939 Register entry? (I am struggling to see it!). She showed as a widow by 1944 at the time of her death, from what Carol found earlier.

Just in support of what you already have. I am taking a break from the British Newspaper Archives so can't see complete article. There is a mention of Paul Smith in the Hendon and Finchley Times on 2 December 1932:

At Hendon Sessions on Monday Paul Smith, The Camp Eleanor Crescent, Mill Hill was summoned for driving motor cycle without a licence as xxatford. It was stated that his licence expired last December and was driving in October...

Monica

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Paul Francis smith first appears on electoral registers at The Camp in 1924. Frances is not listed, but that doesn't mean they weren't together as at 25 she would have been too young to vote

[MonicaL]

There is this possible 1901 census entry that could fit if he was a local boy www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9DY-J1W

Some background to St Vincent's Orphanage where this Paul showed at in 1901 here www.childrenshomes.org.uk/MillHillStVincent/

Guesses really without anything firm for him so far.

Monica

[Mabel Bagshawe]

There's a Paul Smith b c1895 who goes to Canada in 1906 courtesy of the Catholic Emigration Association - maybe the 1901 chap who later comes back to the UK?

1911 Canadian census
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2766-686

[Ladyhawk]

Did Frances show as married or widowed on her 1939 Register entry? (I am struggling to see it!). She showed as a widow by 1944 at the time of her death, from what Carol found earlier.

Just in support of what you already have. I am taking a break from the British Newspaper Archives so can't see complete article. There is a mention of Paul Smith in the Hendon and Finchley Times on 2 December 1932:

At Hendon Sessions on Monday Paul Smith, The Camp Eleanor Crescent, Mill Hill was summoned for driving motor cycle without a licence as xxatford. It was stated that his licence expired last December and was driving in October...

Monica

Not much more in the newspaper article

without a licence at Watford Way.
was driving on October 15th
Defendant who did not appear in person was fined £2