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Offline noland01

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William Casey
« on: Friday 01 September 23 15:10 BST (UK) »
Helping a person compile their family tree and we have gotten stuck on a direct ancestor.
Details are sparse but I think we have the correct wife from 1901/1911 Irish census plus marriage entry.

Person in question is William Casey.Below are what details we have so far.

Married April 1899 Dalkey Dublin to Elizabeth Behan.His fathers name is given as Thomas Casey.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1899/10381/5779526.pdf

Could find no likely birth entry that would fit.Nothing apart from the marriage entry.No deaths that might match .As regards his father find a death entry of a Thomas Casey which is a possibility perhaps
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1901/05729/4616912.pdf

Family lore says he was a soldier and the dates would suggest Boer War.
His wife is,we think, the Lizzie Casey on the 1901/1911 census below.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Kildare/Kildare/Kildare_Barrack/1440696/

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Kildare/Ballybrack/Gorteen/537702/

Again not definite.We think this may be her birth entry below from 1873.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1873/03175/2164532.pdf

His wife states married in 1901 and widowed by 1911(again assuming we have the correct person). We couldn't find her husband anywhere on 1901 census (her daughter Mary is living with grandparents here in 1901 )
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Kildare/Lackagh/Crossmorris/1435239/


Looking at Boer War stuff see a few William Casey deaths/missing but details are sparse and nothing jumps out.

Apologies for the long post but anyone any pointers,ideas or maybe we are on the wrong track and perhaps have mixed up some people.

Have found death entry for Elizabeth Casey nee Behan along with marriage entry for her daughter Mary Casey and we know these are the correct ones.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1952/04477/4174525.pdf



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Re: William Casey
« Reply #1 on: Friday 01 September 23 15:30 BST (UK) »
First thought:

I see that William and Elizabeth were married in a Catholic church. Unlike civil marriage certificates, Catholic marriage records from this time usually include the mother's maiden name, which could prove very useful.

Here is the church in which they married:
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0512

It says that the registers are held in local custody. Perhaps it is worth sending an email?

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Re: William Casey
« Reply #2 on: Friday 01 September 23 17:09 BST (UK) »
I was hoping his death would be in the local newspaper, no joy, but I did find Thomas Casey, Brownstown fined 5 or 6 shillings and 4 shillings costs for being in possession of property of the military.
Printed Wednesday 16 March 1901 about the previous Wednesday
You can search the Kildare Observer free http://archive.irishnewsarchive.com/Olive/APA/KCL.Edu/#panel=home

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Re: William Casey
« Reply #3 on: Friday 01 September 23 17:45 BST (UK) »
If he was a soldier in barracks, he would be under his initials only on the 1901 census.
Coffey, Cummins [Rathfalla, Tipperary], Cummins [Skirke, Laois], Curran, Dillon [Clare], Fogarty [Garran, Laois/Tipp], Hughes, Keshan (Keeshan), Loughman [Harristown and Killadooley, Laois], Mallon [Armagh], Malone, Markham [Caherkine, Clare], McKeon(e) [Sligo/Kilkenny/Waterford], McNamara, Meagher, Prescott [Kilkenny/Waterford/Wexford?], Rafferty, Ryan, Sullivan, Tobin
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Re: William Casey
« Reply #4 on: Friday 01 September 23 18:53 BST (UK) »
Thomas was a soldier. As such his son William could have been born almost anywhere in the world (literally) - Britain, India, Egypt.....

Never been clear to me - do the irishgenealogy.ie entries include the overseas military and naval entries in the original printed GRO indices?
BRENNANx2 Davidstown/Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh/Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee/Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough/Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson/Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry/Oulart;WALSH Kilrane/Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: William Casey
« Reply #5 on: Friday 01 September 23 19:08 BST (UK) »
Multiple "W. Caseys" are recorded as receiving the South Africa medal for service in the British Army in the 2nd Boer War.
Several of these can be pretty much eliminated on the basis of improbable rank or regiment. Which leaves a chap in the Royal Dublin Fusiliers; a private (another, a  corporal, is unlikely because of his rank).
BRENNANx2 Davidstown/Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh/Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee/Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough/Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson/Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry/Oulart;WALSH Kilrane/Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: William Casey
« Reply #6 on: Friday 01 September 23 19:17 BST (UK) »
Ancestry moved all the military records to Fold 3, yes?
My grandfather served in the 2nd Boer War and I found about 20 pages for him, while the records were still on Ancestry, he was also in the RDF.

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Re: William Casey
« Reply #7 on: Friday 01 September 23 19:22 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the replies.Have found a WJ C ,an armourer,married ,aged 37 on 1901 census but he is C of I which is not impossible but unlikely.Also a soldier W C but aged 64 so again highly unlikely and also on marriage in 1899 the William Casey I think is the correct one gives profession as labourer.

Possible he may have been posted overseas by this time.Also the possibility that the family lore is incorrect and perhaps he  decided to do a runner/emigrate for work etc etc.

Will stay looking.The William Casey,private looks the most likely if the man I am looking for was in British Army.

Must have a look at the William Casey
McDonnell McDonald Gorman Cronley Colman Deegan Dunne Maher Dempsey Conlon Griffin Bergin Lalor Keys Bonham Brennan Hart(Laois) Nolan Byrne O Byrne Brady Mullen Hanaway Brennan Keeffe Reddy (Carlow)
O'Neill Doyle Donnelly Devlin  (Tyrone) Connor, Burbidge,McNally (Dublin)Hannon McCarthy (Tipperary)Healy Miley Treacy (Wicklow)Kelly (Kildare)

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Re: William Casey
« Reply #8 on: Friday 01 September 23 19:25 BST (UK) »
Could find no likely birth entry that would fit.Nothing apart from the marriage entry.No deaths that might match .As regards his father find a death entry of a Thomas Casey which is a possibility perhaps
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1901/05729/4616912.pdf


Thomas Casey is described as ‘married’ on his death. Have you found his wife?
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