David Evans 1854-1916 death.

[roycymru]

Hello

Hoping for help on this. Looking for earlier census entries for David and any more details on his death.

David confuses everyone, including himself on his date of birth. We know from details about him in the marriage certificate of his daughter Sarah Helena Evans (1897) that he died during the Great War after his ship was torpedoed. In Welsh Mariner’s index this corresponds to David Evans born 1854 in Llanelli certificate number 05335. From this I found his Mariner’s certificate on line which give his DOB as 17 Jul 1854. In later certificates he gives his DOB as 09 Jun 1854, Llanelli! He does not appear much in the census, presumably as he is at sea. In this marriage entry (1891) he says he was born 1857 and in the 1911 census in 1862!

His marriage entry states his father was also called David Evans and was also a Master Mariner. He should at least be in the 1861 census, but I can’t find him. He may be in the 1871 census but I know that they could start maritime training as early as age 12/13.

I attach an extract from Welsh Mariners list which gives a reference no. Regarding his death but I have been unable to find anything in relation to this.

His mariners records are here

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/2271/images/31936_1831101456_0178-00581?backurl=https%253A%252F%252Fwww.ancestry.co.uk%252Ffamily-tree%252Fperson%252Ftree%252F72019084%252Fperson%252F222506423234%252Ffacts%252Fcitation%252F742694070156%252Fedit%252Frecord&pid=424492

Thank you

Roy

[osprey]

newspaper articles
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/4101189/4101195/118/

and from earlier in the war
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/4092269/4092276/75/

[osprey]

1911 census to help anyone searching - at Cae Banc

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWXV-JLY

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[osprey]

possible baptism

St Paul Llanelli
17 Oct 1854 David son of David, sailor, and Elizabeth Evans, Seaside

1861 census
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7HJ-WPS

Possible marriage
St Pauls 1 Feb 1852
David Evans full bach sailor Seaside father John Evans pilot
Elizabeth Morgan full spinster Seaside father John Morgan farmer
witnesses Margaret Evans & Daniel/David? Morgan

birth reg David Evans sept qtr 1854 Llanelly vol 11a pg 480 mmn Morgan

[roycymru]

possible baptism

St Paul Llanelli
17 Oct 1854 David son of David, sailor, and Elizabeth Evans, Seaside

1861 census
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7HJ-WPS

Possible marriage
St Pauls 1 Feb 1852
David Evans full bach sailor Seaside father John Evans pilot
Elizabeth Morgan full spinster Seaside father John Morgan farmer
witnesses Margaret Evans & Daniel/David? Morgan

birth reg David Evans sept qtr 1854 Llanelly vol 11a pg 480 mmn Morgan

Excellent, thanks for this and the newspaper articles

[roycymru]

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Sorry, I am confused by this as it seems to be all about Thornaby’s

[osprey]

from the Mariners Index
'David Evans, late of Railway Terrace, Seaside, Llanelli, Master Mariner, died 7 Oct 1863 at sea. Admon 23 April 1864 to Elizabeth Evans, widow, the relict.'

[osprey]

and a remarriage
St Pauls 20 July 1867
Evan Williams 35 bach mariner New Dock father John Williams mariner
Elizabeth Evans 34 widow Station Road father John Morgan farmer
witnesses Sarah Morgans & Josha Rees

Not spotting her on the census as yet.