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Parents of William Thomas Arthur Jordan (b. 1890)
« on: Saturday 02 September 23 19:40 BST (UK) »
Hello,

I'm a bit stuck working backwards from this one.  I believe he was born on 20/01/1890 (from later naval records), and appears as a 1 year old in the 1891 census:

Hampshire/Portsea/Kingston/District 49
RG12/860

on the fourth row down, below mum and older sister.

Dad is not on the census, and I don't know his name. I also don't have any details about his parents' marriage or the birth of his older sister Ethel.  The census gives his mum's first name as Eliza and a place of birth of Battersea, but I can't find her on any earlier documents.

It's a while since I last looked at this one properly, but I remember various false starts where I found similar couples but then there would always be some inconsistency.  If anyone is willing to lend a fresh pair of eyes to it, I'd be glad of a fresh perspective!

Many thanks.


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Re: Parents of William Thomas Arthur Jordan (b. 1890)
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 02 September 23 19:41 BST (UK) »
p18 of the census, to add to the references already given.  Let me know if you need more details.

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Re: Parents of William Thomas Arthur Jordan (b. 1890)
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 02 September 23 20:04 BST (UK) »
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp

Births Mar 1890 

JORDAN, WILLIAM  THOMAS ARTHUR     mothers maiden name KING     
GRO Reference: 1890  M Quarter in PORTSEA ISLAND  Volume 02B  Page 526

Possible marriage

Marriages Dec 1886   
Jordan    Edward Alfred        St. Olave    1d   568    
KING    Elizabeth Jane         St Olave    1d   568

Have you looked for the 1901 entry?
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Re: Parents of William Thomas Arthur Jordan (b. 1890)
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 02 September 23 20:07 BST (UK) »
  Baptised Portsea 5/2/90, born 20/01/90, father William Thomas(?) stoker R.N. The writing is bad in the register, but mother could be Eliza Ruth.
Pay, Kent
Codham/Coltham, Kent
Kent, Felton, Essex
Staples, Wiltshire


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Re: Parents of William Thomas Arthur Jordan (b. 1890)
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 02 September 23 20:38 BST (UK) »
Births Mar 1869 
KING Eliza Ruth    Portsea    2b   482

Full 1891 entry

Eliza Jordan 22 wife b Battersea
Ethel B 2 b Battersea
William T A 1 b Portsmouth
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Re: Parents of William Thomas Arthur Jordan (b. 1890)
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 02 September 23 20:51 BST (UK) »
There is no Jordan/King marriage.  Given Ethel was b Battersea - no birth reg under Jordan or King

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Re: Parents of William Thomas Arthur Jordan (b. 1890)
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 02 September 23 21:34 BST (UK) »
Just as a side note and question. Came across this entry here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Birthday_Honours

1948 Birthday Honours
Military List
Royal Navy

Engineer Captain William Thomas Arthur Jordan OBE, (Retired).

Is this connected to your searches?

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Re: Parents of William Thomas Arthur Jordan (b. 1890)
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 02 September 23 21:49 BST (UK) »
William's death registration in 1976 confirms the date of birth you have for him:

1st Qrt 1976
WILLIAM THOMAS A JORDAN    
20JA1890   
HASTINGS   
Ref 18/1457

A probate entry following his death gives his address as 137 Marina, St Leonards on Sea.

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Re: Parents of William Thomas Arthur Jordan (b. 1890)
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 02 September 23 22:02 BST (UK) »
baptism to go with the Eliza Ruth King birth in Portsea
St Barnabas
21 August 1879 Eliza Ruth born 14 Dec 1868 daughter of John, baker, & Ann King  Holloway street
also Naomi born 14 Jan 1871 & Elizabeth Ann 28 Dec 1867

1871 census John's place of birth is Battersea RG10/1140 folio 70 pg 20

1881 with a different wife https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q274-FN3D
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb