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Maternal surname mystery
« on: Sunday 03 September 23 19:07 BST (UK) »
John Evans (Brewer) m Elizabeth Ellis in Wrexham 1846. Her father John Ellis.
They lived mainly at 18 Bridge Street.

So how come according to the GRO digital online copies of their five children's births, the mother's former name was Eddowes?

The five children are Mary, John, Richard, Rose Anna and Charles born 1847, 1850, 1852, 1855, 1858 respectively.

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Re: Maternal surname mystery
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 03 September 23 19:17 BST (UK) »
Have you found an Eddowes/Ellis marriage?
Perhaps she was born Eddowes but raised as Ellis.
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« Reply #2 on: Sunday 03 September 23 19:25 BST (UK) »
Have you found her in 1841 census?

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Re: Maternal surname mystery
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 03 September 23 19:28 BST (UK) »
What is her father’s occupation?
There is a baptism
Feb 17th 1827, Wrexham
Elizabeth Eddowes, daughter of John and Mary, Bank Street.
John is a Maltster - so that fits with the Brewing theme.
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Re: Maternal surname mystery
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 03 September 23 19:30 BST (UK) »
There is another Elizabeth Eddowes baptised 1829 - same parents but John’s occupation is a Carrier.
There is a child Ann baptised the same day.
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Re: Maternal surname mystery
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 03 September 23 19:37 BST (UK) »
An Elizabeth Eddowes marries in Wrexham in 1845, for information.

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Re: Maternal surname mystery
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 03 September 23 19:38 BST (UK) »
1841 census for Wrexham are not online.

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Maternal surname mystery
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 03 September 23 19:40 BST (UK) »
Have now done quite a bit of research on the Eddowes family but am more puzzled by the Ellis connection.

I suppose it is possible that John Evans married an Elizabeth Ellis in 1846. She could have died almost straight away and then he got another Elizabeth pregnant (Eddowes) and they had their first child Mary in Holt in 1847.

Possible but highly unlikely.

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« Reply #8 on: Sunday 03 September 23 19:42 BST (UK) »
1829 Wrexham birth for Elizabeth Eddowes - trees have her as dying in 1838 - but they could all have copied each other.